A question on the hypothetical situation

majorloser

majorloser

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DON'T ATTEMPT THE EXPERIMENTS PERFORMED BY MULESTER IN YOUR OWN HOME!
He is a trained professional with years of experience :confused: :eek: :confused:

(Mule: I hear Myth Busters is looking for a new cast member)
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
Vaughan Odendaa said:
Sorry if it seems like I'm just asking the same questions over and over. I'm just trying to understand what you're saying. That's all.

I don't know that much about conductance. In fact I don't know what it is. :) So if you could just briefly explain to me what that is I'll really appreciate it.

Thank you for putting up with me.

--Sincerely,
.....well, shucks, Vaughan, now you made me feel like a worthless smart-aleck, haha....Clint, whatever it takes to help you see the light, (arf)....Major, if I'm a professional, Brothers HATE chrome, now there that is....come on, let's hear from some who stuck speaker wire leads in their mouths last evening.....
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
Vaughan Odendaa said:
I don't know that much about conductance. In fact I don't know what it is. :) So if you could just briefly explain to me what that is I'll really appreciate it.
.....Vaughn, I only know it's a different form of alternating current that won't blow the top of your head off when you stick speaker wire leads in your mouth....I wish I could take it further, but that's not the end of this hobby I'm into....I have always been a hands-on comparer....I don't care what others say in reviews either, having been burned twice just here lately by a, (cough), Pro review....there are no golden ears....
 
mulester7

mulester7

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.....there are no golden ears....but, there IS, The Almighty Dollar, influencing, in some reviews, or so it would seem....here's a ficticious example that I would not doubt has been spoken in real-life behind closed doors more than once...."hey, let's take the money from the receiver industry and go ahead and do blind tests with matched levels and totally disorienting blindfolds"...."people will stay at the mid-receiver level, and they will spread the "Little David" myth"".....gotta' go eat, Guys....ladders......
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Vaughan Odendaa said:
The thing is, I don't want to try this. :D But I wanted to know if, as some people tell me, that amps can blow if the speaker leads touch, even if only briefly. There are so many myths in acoustics and in audio in general. So I wanted to know from the EE, or the other experts with a lot more experience than me what the answer would be.

But thank you for your thoughts.

--Sincerely,

One way to find out, safely and minimal cost but you need some instruments, a good voltmeter and current meter:D
I would check the amp output voltage with volume down to minimum. I bet it is 0V?
Then, I would buy a few resistors or enough to make an 8 ohm load, 6 ohm load, 4 ohm load and maybe a 2 ohm load. Connect the 8 ohm and the current meter in in the circuit and see if there is any current in there with minimum volume. Then repeat with the lower resistors. The, you could increase the volume control and see. Record all your observations. It should show you the trend. This would be my suggestion.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
Vaughan Odendaa said:
So the conductance will prevent damage if the speaker leads touch each other while the amp is on ?
--Sincerely,

Don't listen to him. Big mistake; no idea what he is saying here about conductance. The amp puts out AC signal of the input signal frequency up to the max rail voltage. He needs to try that wire trick with full input at max volume to the front speakers so he will get about 30V AC or more. Maybe that such AC voltage will not tingle. A 9V dc battery tingles my tongue. I certainly can feel it. 120Vac will tingle as well, a lot. The car batter and hands don't, too much resistance. Tongues are mush less.
But, just because he has a high resistant tongue doesn't mean that a 0 ohm resistance will not blow your amp, or at least trip the protection if it is well implemented.
 
mulester7

mulester7

Audioholic Samurai
mtrycrafts said:
Don't listen to him. Big mistake; no idea what he is saying here about conductance. The amp puts out AC signal of the input signal frequency up to the max rail voltage. He needs to try that wire trick with full input at max volume to the front speakers so he will get about 30V AC or more. Maybe that such AC voltage will not tingle. A 9V dc battery tingles my tongue. I certainly can feel it. 120Vac will tingle as well, a lot. The car batter and hands don't, too much resistance. Tongues are mush less.
But, just because he has a high resistant tongue doesn't mean that a 0 ohm resistance will not blow your amp, or at least trip the protection if it is well implemented.
.....what in the World are you rambling about here?....are you drunk?....high resistant tongue?....your fan club of 2 is staring at the floor embarrassed for you....you really need to stop winging answers, Mtry, it's obvious when anyone does that to the extent you've done here....
He needs to try that wire trick with full input at max volume to the front speakers.
.....that's pretty much exactly what I did using a surround speaker....what's the difference?....
 
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