A Few Axiom questions

Rowdy S13

Rowdy S13

Audioholic Chief
Ok Im kinda looking to upgrade my speakers and had a few questions. To start I have Canton LE 170's and a Integra DTR-5.4 I have been looking to get Axiom or RBH. I like the axioms a lil more because of price so because of that Im looking at the M80ti tower the VP150 center and QS8 surround. The first question I have is how are they? Does anyone have any of these and how do they sound? The second more impotant question is I noticed that the towers are 4ohm the center is 6ohm and the surrounds are also 6ohm. Will this affect my reciever in a negative way? Wont it stress it a lot more? Im also considering changing to a Denon 4806 will it be better with that reciever? Other than that any thoughts are always aprciated.

Thanks,
Sean
 
Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
I'm just assuming you've already read this review.

I love my Axioms, and for the price they surely can't be beat. But after hearing Gene's T-2's and Clint's 1266-LSE's - I don't really think they are in the same category as the Axioms. Their price reflects this. Ray suggested an RBH system with the Axiom EP500 in this thread. If I had to do it all over again and I had the money, I'd take a hard look at the RBH's. If the price difference is a big issue, the Axioms were, to me, the best bang for the buck and I've been happy with them.
 
AVRat

AVRat

Audioholic Ninja
Either way you go, you will definitely need better power than the Integra offers. Depending on your listening level, the 4806 may suffice, but you may need a separate amp as well.
 
jcPanny

jcPanny

Audioholic Ninja
Axioms without seperate amp

If you don't plan to upgrade to an outboard amp, consider the Axiom M60s for fronts. They are an easy load to drive and will provide similar performance to the M80s but acheive slightly lower maximum SPLs.

However, if you have enough cash for an RPH speaker system, than you'd probably be willing to spend some on electronics. Just about every audioholics reference system has the RPH signiture series. They are at a different performance (and price) level than the Axiom speakers.
 
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newfmp3

Audioholic
i see a lot of people commenting on the 4 ohm 80's not in this thread but in others that obviously have never owned or heard them. They are not that power hungry. Heck even the 4600 I have powers them all quite well. We have a lot of owners on the axiom forum with 635/s, 3805's and up that handle the loads quite fine. The biggest factor is room size, and how loud you like it. I think a lot of people around here try telling people that they need a much more powerful amp then they really "need". What do you "need" is often the bigger question then what you "want"
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
Axiom is really good. No brainer once I listened to them.

Rowdy S13 said:
Ok Im kinda looking to upgrade my speakers and had a few questions. To start I have Canton LE 170's and a Integra DTR-5.4 I have been looking to get Axiom or RBH. I like the axioms a lil more because of price so because of that Im looking at the M80ti tower the VP150 center and QS8 surround. The first question I have is how are they? Does anyone have any of these and how do they sound? The second more impotant question is I noticed that the towers are 4ohm the center is 6ohm and the surrounds are also 6ohm. Will this affect my reciever in a negative way? Wont it stress it a lot more? Im also considering changing to a Denon 4806 will it be better with that reciever? Other than that any thoughts are always aprciated.

Thanks,
Sean
I have the floor standing speakers one step down, Axiom M60ti coupled with QS8 surrounds and VP150 for the center. Let me till you that this setup makes a subwoofer unnecessary. And guess what, I dont have one. Before people start yelling, I will get one soon. The reason I mention it is because my listening is not influenced by a sub filling in for where the speaker falls short. The M60ti's shake my walls. In terms of music, I hear everything form classical to rock to hip-hop to dance. The speakers really shine when I put in a well recorded disc at good volume (-20dB on my Yammy). The YPAO (auto calibration) did its thing and i am absolutely thrilled when I see M&C: Far Side or The Matrix.

I would have gotten the M80ti's but I thought they were overkill for my needs, and I did not have $ $$$$.$$ for a seperate amp. Maybe my Christmas present to me :rolleyes:

That being the only cavait, if you get the M80ti's you will need an external amp to be able to drive them. Most receivers will choke on them. But if you have an external amp, dont worry about the impidence difference, most amps support speakers from 2 to 8 ohm. And then your processor will control the trim on each speaker so that they are calibrated.
 
Ax-man

Ax-man

Audioholic
newfmp3 said:
i see a lot of people commenting on the 4 ohm 80's not in this thread but in others that obviously have never owned or heard them. They are not that power hungry. Heck even the 4600 I have powers them all quite well. We have a lot of owners on the axiom forum with 635/s, 3805's and up that handle the loads quite fine. The biggest factor is room size, and how loud you like it. I think a lot of people around here try telling people that they need a much more powerful amp then they really "need". What do you "need" is often the bigger question then what you "want"
Hey Newf!! What's up...this is 'BrotherBob' from the Axiom site, another happy M80 owner. Good to see you over here!

Yea, what *he* said. :)
 
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newfmp3

Audioholic
hey man! small world!

everyone knows the 60's would be "fine". for my room they would have been more then plenty, but then I saw the 80's and I was @#$@ed.

No way could I get the 60's after seeing the 80's. Sure, I don't "NEED" them, but come on.....look at em :)

That being said, I am hoping to get a pair of 60's for another room to replace the ageing vega's. It can't happen fast enough imho. But, will I resist the urge to get the 80's again..........I am very weak you know.
 
Rowdy S13

Rowdy S13

Audioholic Chief
So from what I see basicly Im gonna need an amp right. So now the qusetion is do I bother getting the 4806 if Im just gonna buy an amp anyway? Is there a better Preamp/Amp I should look at? Also what amp do you all suggust for those speakers? Do I get just a 2 channel or do I get a 7 Channel and just drive them all? I know its a lot of questions but Im sure you guys can handle it. :D

Thanks,
Sean
 
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korgoth

Full Audioholic
if yorue getting a new amp, you dont really need a new denon right now, unless you want all the new features.

id just get a 2-channel amp, since your receiver would power the surrounds and center just fine.

and i think anyone would rather get rbh, but they cost .. 3x-6x, as much.
 
Rowdy S13

Rowdy S13

Audioholic Chief
Well after thinkin for a min I remberd when I was gonna go full seprates and I was looking at the Emotiva MPS-1. Im thinkin mabey running that with the Integra for now and wait till the have preamps the have all the features I want without costing a million dollars. Basicly I want the Denon because it has 3 HDMI in 1 DVI In and upconversion to HDMI. I of course want HDMI in's and up conversion because that seems to be where everything is going right now. But I like the DVI input because I have a media center PC and Id rather run DVI out to the reciever but I guess Componet will be ok. Sorry Im rambling and thinking out loud. But anyway Id like to hear what you all think. I apreciate all the thoghts so far keep the comming.

Thanks,
Sean
 
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