500 Watts a channel @ 8 Ohm Bridged

[David Gaudreau]

Is this really possible from this thing?

http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=A500&gclid=CKnM88D_spACFSFaagodfUjWMA

And $174.95 Each

 

[j_garcia]

There are at least a dozen threads on this guy.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

Behringer's are beasts; the EP2500 is even more of a beast. If you want 7 ugly amps, 7 power cords and have room for 7 amps that you have to turn on manually then this is the way to go vs. the IPS you just ordered.

 

[mtrycrafts]

And $174.95 Each

Yes, but don't forget shipping, it isn't free and it isn't peanuts at $40.

 

[mike c]

I just can't believe noone's made cheap/pro class d amps yet. sub amps can do it ... but full range ones (that are cheap) have yet to come out.

 

[David Gaudreau]

Behringer's are beasts; the EP2500 is even more of a beast. If you want 7 ugly amps, 7 power cords and have room for 7 amps that you have to turn on manually then this is the way to go vs. the IPS you just ordered.

I think seeing 7 of those things stacked up would look pretty cool, But I think I'll just stick to my IPS-1 for now. I really hope I will be blown away so I won't want more.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I think 7 of thoses would be gaudy if they are where they can be seen. Now if they are in a AV closet, where you can show them off when you want to brag, then that's another story. I have actually always wanted to buy one just to check it out but I really dont need one for anything.

I think seeing 7 of those things stacked up would look pretty cool, But I think I'll just stick to my IPS-1 for now. I really hope I will be blown away so I won't want more.

 

[mike c]

I think seeing 7 of those things stacked up would look pretty cool, But I think I'll just stick to my IPS-1 for now. I really hope I will be blown away so I won't want more.

like this? (jeffsg4mac)

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37901

or this? (majorloser)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/majorloser_pics/Theater036.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/majorloser_pics/Theater012.jpg

or like mine? (though i only have 4)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ded HT 2/IMG_5154.jpg

 

[Bluesmoke]

Can you turn the Behringers on automatically, or have to flick the switch on each unit everytime?

 

[mike c]

you can build your own 12v trigger for each behringer using a 12vDC to AC relay.

or I made a switch that turns them on all at the same time.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

like this? (jeffsg4mac)

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37901

or this? (majorloser)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/majorloser_pics/Theater036.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g278/majorloser_pics/Theater012.jpg

or like mine? (though i only have 4)

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a330/superribbit/ded HT 2/IMG_5154.jpg

LOL mine are the coolest though because they have black knobs

 

[TLS Guy]

Behringer's are beasts; the EP2500 is even more of a beast. If you want 7 ugly amps, 7 power cords and have room for 7 amps that you have to turn on manually then this is the way to go vs. the IPS you just ordered.

I'm amazed they can do it for the price. On paper it looks OK. Yes, it needs a seven amp breaker. I'm not a fan of bridged amps. The speakers have to be 8 ohm bridged. You could certainly build a 7.1 system out of these, and use a preamp.

If you do then you would need to set up a 24 volt relay system for switching on and off. I use seven of the late Peter Walker's lovely current dumping amps in my system. I have always liked the sound of those. The 909 is a real beauty. This amp bank loads three circuits.

If you look at this picture you will see the relay system I installed. There is also a fan to take off the heat. The Fan is located along way from the equipment to keep it quiet, it pulls from a duct and evacuates the air outside.

http://mdcarter.smugmug.com/gallery/2424008#127077723

Until class D amps are generally available for other than sub use, we will have power and heat problems.

 

[David Gaudreau]

I would think the Emotiva IPS-1 amp would sounds cleaner that those amps right????

 

[TLS Guy]

Quads

I would think the Emotiva IPS-1 amp would sounds cleaner that those amps right????

I would very much doubt it. The current dumping amp, or class C feed forward was a patent of the late Peter Walker OBE. He was founder and managing director of Quad, the Acoustical Manufacturing Company. Quad and its current holding company hold the patents.

The principle of the amp is that there is a small very accurate class A biased amp that feeds an error signal to the power transistors which provide the muscle and dump current into the load. This is a true feed forward error correction not negative feedback. This circuit looks on the face of it as if it can't work and be stable. But it is! Also the components can drift away from speck quite a bit and the circuit is still self correcting. There is no need for any internal adjustments

These amps are very sweet and pure. I'm quite addicted to them and the circuit. I have fiddled with it for years and know my way around them. I can service them quickly as a rule. So hands off my Quads.

 

[Joe Schmoe]

Is this really possible from this thing?

http://www.savinglots.com/lotprod.asp?item=A500&gclid=CKnM88D_spACFSFaagodfUjWMA

And $174.95 Each

Why on earth would anyone want 500 watts/ch? I don't care how big your house is, that is way, way more power than you could ever use (unless your goal is to go deaf!)

 

[fmw]

Is this really possible from this thing?

That depends on how you measure watts and whether you are talking about the nominal impedance of the output device or what the amp actually sees at the output terminals. The way I rate things like this the answer is no. The way they rate them the answer is obviously yes.

 

[mike c]

Is this really possible from this thing?

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17004&highlight=audio+critic+a500

at 1% THD, the A500 is already capable of producing 440w ... i'm guessing at something like 10% THD, it will easily achieve 500w.

 

[mtrycrafts]

Why on earth would anyone want 500 watts/ch? ,

Maybe he want to turn it up when he is working in the yard and hear it as well as inside Or, let his neighbors appreciate it too.

 

[majorloser]

Why on earth would anyone want 500 watts/ch? I don't care how big your house is, that is way, way more power than you could ever use (unless your goal is to go deaf!)

BECAUSE I CAN!!!!!!

And "YES" I like to let the whole neighborhood know when I'm listening to something.

(BTW- my B&K 7270 is in that rack now, too. Powers the other zone.)

 

[skizzerflake]

>>>Why on earth would anyone want 500 watts/ch? I don't care how big your house is, that is way, way more power than you could ever use (unless your goal is to go deaf!)<<<

500 WPC isn't so outrageous. I have had 400 WPC and with fairly inefficient Vandersteen speakers, they could go loud but not outrageously loud. I mainly have plenty of headroom for brief bursts with lots of bottom. 500 watts is only marginally louder. The loudness - watts relation is logarithmic so twice as much power is only 3 db louder so 25% more power is only slightly louder.

The more pungent question is what this amp really is. Cheap for sure. Reliable? Is it really 500WPC? Measured by what means? Will it have a noisy fan? There are other brands of high power amps that are fairly cheap (not this cheap) meant for PA use and those have noisy fans and dubious sound quality. They often also use phone jacks for speaker connections.