Putting in ceiling speakers when the wall is open is not a big deal. I recently added a family room addition with a vaulted ceiling to my old house. The room is reasonably well suited to 7.1.4 so I added in ceiling speakers and wiring for surrounds.\n\nThe downside, which I hadn't thought through, is now I need to power 11 speakers. Whoops. I think I'll wait a couple of months and see if Denon refreshes their high end models.\n\n\nWhy? Denon supposedly gives true power rating to their higher end receivers, so no external amplification is really necessary. Why not just get an eleven channel receiver?