3D Printing of speakers is now A THING?

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I saw this article in my Google Feed and it got me thinking about Luca Chesky, the son of my friend and recording engineer, David Chesky. Luca, at 17 years old is making 3D printed loudspeakers that have gotten the attention of people like Sandy Gross (co-founder of Polk, Definitive, GoldenEar). I just saw him showing his audiophile speakers at both Axpona and Munich. Made in the US. Tariff proof. And he's not even in college yet.

The above article begs an interesting question... with a big enough 3D printer and easy access to super-high-quality parts could normal audiophiles make their own uber-high-end loudspeakers?

DIY speakers have always seemed silly to me but these are different times. AI, 3D printing. Class D-Amps that kick total ass for cheap?

Do you think they have a point? Perhaps more so now, than before?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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I tried resisting looking at this post as to how silly it could be....wtf are you about?
 
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TankTop5

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I tried resisting looking at this post as to how silly it could be....wtf are you about?
It may be silly now but it’s definitely the future, at least for budget to mid level speakers. You’ll be able to get very intricate port designs in smaller speakers that plastic injection molds can’t. Silly now but not for long
 
FutureAudiophile.com

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I am really Ted Denny posting to haunt Gene, Tank Top.

Maybe you could be more hostile dude?

I actually write for Audioholics and I am friends with Gene. Get a clue and change your shirt.
 
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TankTop5

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I am really Ted Denny posting to haunt Gene, Tank Top.

Maybe you could be more hostile dude?

I actually write for Audioholics and I am friends with Gene. Get a clue and change your shirt.
How did you read that as hostile in any way?
 
j_garcia

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The speakers pictured in the article are pretty interesting. I saw the article the other day, but didn't have time to read it. The parts look like a decent driver, with some parts express bits for the rest of it, attached to the printed waveguide. I wasn't thinking Nautilus, despite the shape, but rather more like the "hamhock" Norh speakers that could readily be 3D printed.

I work with a lot of advanced 3D printing companies now, that could make something more "appealing" print wise vs. those :D My current project involves a team that is doing very advanced manufacturing (metal and ceramic 3D printing) so I get to see a lot of presentations from the 3D printing vendors.
 
TLS Guy

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I saw this article in my Google Feed and it got me thinking about Luca Chesky, the son of my friend and recording engineer, David Chesky. Luca, at 17 years old is making 3D printed loudspeakers that have gotten the attention of people like Sandy Gross (co-founder of Polk, Definitive, GoldenEar). I just saw him showing his audiophile speakers at both Axpona and Munich. Made in the US. Tariff proof. And he's not even in college yet.

The above article begs an interesting question... with a big enough 3D printer and easy access to super-high-quality parts could normal audiophiles make their own uber-high-end loudspeakers?

DIY speakers have always seemed silly to me but these are different times. AI, 3D printing. Class D-Amps that kick total ass for cheap?

Do you think they have a point? Perhaps more so now, than before?
They have no point. They may be able to print the enclosure, but they won't print the drivers. All enclosures have to be matched to drivers that have the exact Thiele/Small parameters. If not then disaster in terms of audio. Then we have not even got to the crossovers.

DIY speakers are not silly. I have always DIYed my speakers and go the huge trouble to design and build them.

DIY gives you freedom in the absence of commercial constraints. So you can design to your specific requirements and also design room and speakers as a functioning totality.








All my own designs.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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I am really Ted Denny posting to haunt Gene, Tank Top.

Maybe you could be more hostile dude?

I actually write for Audioholics and I am friends with Gene. Get a clue and change your shirt.
LOL you're not from ol' Thed in my book from your various articles/posts. I'm just stating my opinion, if you find that hostile, meh. Your articles mostly I find crap.
 
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TankTop5

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I think someone needs to make a 3d print file for the speaker mount on the LXmini that doesn’t use metal straps and other ugly parts
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MrBoat

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DIY speakers have always seemed silly to me but these are different times. AI, 3D printing. Class D-Amps that kick total ass for cheap?

Do you think they have a point? Perhaps more so now, than before?
DIY is a better option now, than ever, IMO. I am so tired of CAD and CNC everything that has become so inherently obvious with everything made, these days. Nothing has a personality or uniqueness to it and regardless of how far-out the designs try to be, they instead have become so predictably boring.

On top of that, we have these lumberjack bearded programmers now taking full craftsman's credit as if they whittled it themselves from a block of some other, overengineered goop, even though they can barely identify hand or power tools, never mind using them without getting a blister on those pasty white, silk mitts, that they call hands.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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DIY is a better option now, than ever, IMO. I am so tired of CAD and CNC everything that has become so inherently obvious with everything made, these days. Nothing has a personality or uniqueness to it and regardless of how far-out the designs try to be, they instead have become so predictably boring.

On top of that, we have these lumberjack bearded programmers now taking full craftsman's credit as if they whittled it themselves from a block of some other, overengineered goop, even though they can barely identify hand or power tools, never mind using them without getting a blister on those pasty white, silk mitts, that they call hands.
Depends. There is a certain industrial beauty in some of the organic shapes that you can get. They use much less material, are lighter and achieve the same rigidity. Different use case than speakers, but you just need to find the right manufacturing method(s) to achieve something that looks good while being functional.

New BMW motorcycle

Ferrari F80 suspension
 
BoredSysAdmin

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The Hackaday article is 100% clickbait, but I believe 3D printer speakers should be possible, assuming they carefully match drivers, enclosure, and x-over. There are some advantages in 3D printing objects, but plenty of issues as well and challenges that you need to work around, which are not present in traditional wooden DIY speakers
 
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MrBoat

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Depends. There is a certain industrial beauty in some of the organic shapes that you can get. They use much less material, are lighter and achieve the same rigidity. Different use case than speakers, but you just need to find the right manufacturing method(s) to achieve something that looks good while being functional.

New BMW motorcycle

Ferrari F80 suspension
Just not a fan of the tech and it's so well on it's way to overdonedom. I'd be more inclined to fall for a late '60s R69, or an early '70s Norton Commando. I owned motorcycles up until they decided phones mixed with cars was a good idea. I've been a welder/fabricator for over 30 years and have watched CNC and such develop and become less impressive, over time.

It's been like going from brilliantly unique engineers, to imagineers that are instead, all plugged into the same software/brain. The new BMW looks like it was spawned from Ducati's DNA, and I have seen a lot of frames with that same sort of essence of that, but in a computerized, one-up-ish kind of way.

I was welding modern car wheels for a few years. Some of the BMW and Mercedes wheels are a unique (made in China!) set that could not get a single unit replacement for. So many different designs that they become too much of a blur for any one set to stand out on it's own. Then I think back to the SS/Corvette Rally wheels, and how many cars Cragar SS mags looked good, or even proper on. Now all the car dorks fancy themselves conceptualizers, and they can't help but put some oversize, one-off, billet, 20 something inch wheel, and some ribbon tire on a mid '60s SS Nova, like they really brought something personal to it all. Everything now just comes out looking like some outsourced, bolt-on whore.

I have been into RC cars for a number of years. I watch on these forums where someone will need a bracket for a suspension or frame part. They're trying to hit someone up for a printer file to make some specific part. Most of the time, I can suggest something cut from a piece of aluminum angle or something common in minutes, dressed precisely with a bastard and mill file, some sandpaper and holes made with a drill. I can't believe how few people now can see the simple alternatives, that are often more elegant than the printed part.

I'm not knocking it for anyone but myself and why I don't care for such things. I'm just glad I can opt out and I do when possible.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Just not a fan of the tech and it's so well on it's way to overdonedom. I'd be more inclined to fall for a late '60s R69, or an early '70s Norton Commando. I owned motorcycles up until they decided phones mixed with cars was a good idea. I've been a welder/fabricator for over 30 years and have watched CNC and such develop and become less impressive, over time.

It's been like going from brilliantly unique engineers, to imagineers that are instead, all plugged into the same software/brain. The new BMW looks like it was spawned from Ducati's DNA, and I have seen a lot of frames with that same sort of essence of that, but in a computerized, one-up-ish kind of way.

I was welding modern car wheels for a few years. Some of the BMW and Mercedes wheels are a unique (made in China!) set that could not get a single unit replacement for. So many different designs that they become too much of a blur for any one set to stand out on it's own. Then I think back to the SS/Corvette Rally wheels, and how many cars Cragar SS mags looked good, or even proper on. Now all the car dorks fancy themselves conceptualizers, and they can't help but put some oversize, one-off, billet, 20 something inch wheel, and some ribbon tire on a mid '60s SS Nova, like they really brought something personal to it all. Everything now just comes out looking like some outsourced, bolt-on whore.

I have been into RC cars for a number of years. I watch on these forums where someone will need a bracket for a suspension or frame part. They're trying to hit someone up for a printer file to make some specific part. Most of the time, I can suggest something cut from a piece of aluminum angle or something common in minutes, dressed precisely with a bastard and mill file, some sandpaper and holes made with a drill. I can't believe how few people now can see the simple alternatives, that are often more elegant than the printed part.

I'm not knocking it for anyone but myself and why I don't care for such things. I'm just glad I can opt out and I do when possible.
Not everything needs to be 3D printed for sure. I agree, some people can no longer think for themselves as well. But the stuff we are currently working on at work cannot be manufactured any other way. It cannot be machined or cast due to the shapes of the cavities and the size as well as the material. That's 100% functionality though, not designing for looks. As for why those organic shapes come out looking the same, well because that organic looking shape is the most efficient. Nature still smarter than humans.

For the custom scene, it is not so interesting anymore. We don't even go to the car shows anymore, except the hot rods, and then only the old school ones. The small district where we live is a little old downtown "antiques" area and there is a big annual hot rod show, as well as a monthly one for the locals. Someone just bought the super old school gas station, that was vacant and unchanged since probably the 50s and setup a bunch of cool cars in it. Along the main strip there are an model T, an old fire truck, an old delivery truck and an old taxi. I'll snap some pics and post them.
 
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