2CH Room Correction Processors vs MCH

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Too bad you guys don't have Rosa's in OK yet. I don't have them down where I'm at either. You'd never eat at Taco Bell or Taco Bueno again. They seem to be creeping out towards us both so maybe someday. I'd open a franchise but the huge $200k-600k is a bit of a big price range.

Anyway, back to EQ

I would try Rosa’s if they ever opened in my area.

But I used to work for Taco Bueno when I was in high school and also freshman in college - I cooked every dish they sold every morning I worked.

I assume they still cook the way I cooked all those times. So I feel pretty good eating their foods.

Anyway. Back to Room EQ.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Fully agreed, just thought it may be worth repeating the issue and fixes so new Denon/Marantz users know what to try if they found their bass/dynamic punches disappeared, or got worse after running Audyssey/auto setup.

In my opinion, D+M should cover the Audyssey's flat curve potential issues (some may prefer though I am sure the majority don't) in the Owner's manuals. They are not doing themselves any favor by ignoring this fact, that most people prefer the "Harman curve".

I think Dr. Toole summed it up well here:
(PDF) The Measurement and Calibration of Sound Reproducing Systems (researchgate.net)

You can see why I suggested D+M/Audyssey users to use the App so they can get the "All listeners" curve, like me and Pogre might have.

For "Untrained listeners", the Audyssey Off curce may be just fine, depending on the room/speaker/placement combinations.


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Oh yeah, I vote for the untrained listeners curve.

Put me back in the Matrix. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[cpp]

think those days of chasing after the sound is over for me - after many years of doing that.

Same for me. At 68 if my ears don't like it, I could careless what the measurements say.

 

[lovinthehd]

While WC makes you think of food, in Sweden we think of


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Oh no, that's definitely my first thought I barely consider White Castle "food", tho.

 

[Trell]

For small rooms some EQ is needed to knock down peaks.

Below is what Genelec GLM AutoCal corrected (it only corrects peaks) in my small office where I sit less than 1m from the speakers. The crossover is set to 95 Hz, and GLM will phase adjust subwoofer with one speaker at the crossover. After calibration I added a HF tilt which is why the blue line slopes down.

The difference is clearly heard, and for the better.

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Genelec have now released a new version 4.1 of their GLM software that also have new calibration algorithms AutoCal V2.

One new nice feature is that now one can have a bass shelf filter that increases and that a few of the PEQ can have a small boost from +3 db to +6 dB, depending on the monitors capabilities. The upwards tilting bass shelf filter is not so relevant for my desktop system as I use the dynamic loudness feature of the RME ADI-2 DAC FS, but my wife system could use some tilting as she usually listen at a fairly low volume.

Genelec GLM 4.1 Release Notes

 

[lovinthehd]

Weird thread conflating 2ch and multich uses. Yamaha sucks either way?

ps Does this relate to your preference for karaoke?