2 good subs or 1 great sub?

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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
I enjoy crispy highs and low-tight bass. Mid-range and mid-bass are secondary.
Hmmm... so as long as the cymbals and lowest note on a bass are good, you're ok w/ less accuracy on ALL voices and instruments? I'm not sure you really meant that.

And to repeat myself, you cannot get a "great" subwoofer for $500.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
For purely acoustic music sub-40Hz content is rare, but for any modern music with synthesizers like jazz or popular music, there's a surprising amount of deep bass content
Right.
The lowest note on a piano is 27.5Hz. The lowest note on a 4-string bass is 30.8Hz.
In my pedestrian opinion, those notes are not the "most" often used notes in any music. If I'm putting together a system for music, I want the "most" used frequencies to be good first. Then as the budget allows, expand to the notes that are less frequent.

Even in the examples you give, look within a song. "Most" of the music is not in the subwoofer range.

Another point. Say you have good mains and a good subwoofer. The designer of the mains is far more capable designing crossovers than I am by setting 40/60/80Hz in my AVR. If my mains are capable, I would rather fully use the crossovers designed by the speaker designer for accurate music. If I want to artificially boost the bass, I can inject the subs and crank 'em up. It is a fun capability, but not one that I use "most" of the time.

If I'm building a system for music, I will focus on the things it will do "most" of the time, then consider the rest. With a $500 budget, that means Mains.
 
Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
Even in the examples you give, look within a song. "Most" of the music is not in the subwoofer range.


In the examples I have the deep bass content is important to the overall effect. I don't know what "most of the music" means. With the exception of solo performances, music is a collection of instruments playing simultaneously. In a commercial setting they all cost money, so you don't include what's considered unimportant.


If I'm building a system for music, I will focus on the things it will do "most" of the time, then consider the rest. With a $500 budget, that means Mains.
I was the first one to post that opinion in this thread.
 
Steve81

Steve81

Audioholics Five-0
Hi wingnut,

To toss my pennies into the discussion, I'd talk to Dennis Murphy about a pair of his new el-cheapo towers, which should run about $200 for the pair:

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/beta-tester-for-new-el-cheapo-speaker-needed.95183/

IMHO, they'd be an excellent start towards a competent budget 2 channel system, and will leave you a few bucks left over to think about subwoofage. Of course, you may well find their bass adequate as they pack a decent wallop in their own right.
 
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