1080p projectors

[e73bass]

Are there 1080p projectors out yet as I am thinking about a theratre room in my basement.

 

[racquetman]

Ya, how much do you wanna spend

Here is a link to one.

http://www.plasmavision.com/lcd_projector.htm

I don't know what your price range is, but as you can see this one isn't exactly cheap.

I'd do a google search and you shouldn't have any problems finding more. If you mention how much you want to spend, then you may get some more specific recommendations from people.

 

[brian32672]

Are there 1080p projectors out yet as I am thinking about a theratre room in my basement.

There are a lot of them out.
Here is a few that will handle 1080p. (budget from about 1,800.00 to 15K+)
I recommend the NEC HT1100 or the Sim2 Line.


NEC HT1100
NEC MT1065
Sony VPL-HS51
Sim2 HT280
Sim2 HT300 E
InFocus ScreenPlay 5000
InFocus ScreenPlay 5700
JVC DLA-SX21UH

A good place, as most will say is to go here.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/mfg.cfm

You will find most projector manufactures there but certainly not all of them.

 

[brian32672]

Here is a direct link to projectorcentral.com for the

NEC HT1100 http://www.projectorcentral.com/NEC-HT1100.htm

Sim2 HT280 http://www.projectorcentral.com/SIM2_Multimedia-HT280.htm

Sim2 HT300 E http://www.projectorcentral.com/SIM2_Multimedia-HT300_E.htm

 

[LEVESQUE]

JVC HD2K
Sony Qualia

Both are 3 chip LCOS projectors, 1080p. I've seen them both professionnally calibrated and they were better to my eyes then even the mighty Sony G90 (CRT).

 

[Buckle-meister]

Here is [one] that will handle 1080p: InFocus ScreenPlay 5700.

The 5700 will accept the signal, but it cannot display it natively. It has a native resolution of 1024x576. High Definition video is either 1920x1080 or 1280x720, so the 5700 will have to scale the video it is receiving down before displaying it.

Regards

 

[brian32672]

The 5700 will accept the signal, but it cannot display it natively. It has a native resolution of 1024x576. High Definition video is either 1920x1080 or 1280x720, so the 5700 will have to scale the video it is receiving down before displaying it.

Regards

Thats funny that the 5000 is native 1280x720 and is 1,200.00 cheaper. Granted it is LCD over the DLP model. So you will loose some contrast.....

 

[BMXTRIX]

Don't know why you would pick the HT1100 over a solid 16:9 projector...

Anyway, the Sony Qualia is one of the best digital home theater projectors on the market right now. I would think that within 1-2 years we will really see 1080p technology take off as both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD are likely to offer 1080/24p video on their discs and we should (finally) see the 1080p DLP chips hitting the streets.

Unless I was getting a solid 1080p projector like the Qualia, I wouldn't worry much about 1080p right now. If it is important, then I would wait 1-2 years for more technology to come out and prices to drop. I expect them well under $10K in 2 years.

 

[brian32672]

Don't know why you would pick the HT1100 over a solid 16:9 projector...

UHH, forgot to state, I am a 4:3 buff. And my 120" screen is 4:3 format. So it would be my choice.......

 

[Spiffyfast]

UHH, forgot to state, I am a 4:3 buff. And my 120" screen is 4:3 format. So it would be my choice.......

4:3 buff, you watch alot of cable/sattelite tv on the projector? thats gotta be hell on bulb replacement with the extra hours

 

[BMXTRIX]

I still watch mostly 4:3, but do so on my regular TV. But, for people getting into home theater for the first time I would strongly encourage them to look into only 16:9 projectors and screens. Since 4:3 material will display smaller on a 16:9 screen AND it is almost always lower quality, you effectively reduce size and quality at the same time making a better watching experience.

But, when watching a good DVD (HD disc... someday) or HDTV the material fills up that 16:9 screen and can blow you away.

Recently AVS Forum has had a discussion about a company offerring relatively inexpensive manual and electric masking systems which seem like such a killer idea to me.

e73bass - Do some serious reading on Projector Central then consider why you specifically are looking for 1080p when (basically) nothing puts that out. 1080/24p is likely to be supported by HD discs, but with only a handful of LCD/LCoS projectors having 1080p and no DLP yet, it is a very weak market for 1080p right now. I am sticking with my entry level HT projector for at least another 2-3 years until I see what comes out in the 1080p format.

Good, cheap 720p projectors are readily available though - I would get one if I were building now and wanted a projector now.

 

[brian32672]

4:3 buff, you watch alot of cable/sattelite tv on the projector? thats gotta be hell on bulb replacement with the extra hours

No, actually I watch very little tv. A lot of my DVD's are 4:3 Including LOTR, Harry Potter, etc.... Obviously not all of them. But I try to get 4:3 when possible...

 

[e73bass]

1080p

So is the NEC1100 or Sony VPL-HS51 a good projector to watch HDTV satellite-sports mostly (hockey, football) on and DVD and alot of X-boxing.
Also will the new HD-DVD support current DVD format or will I be replacing my 200+ current DVD's ?
Also thinking about the hitachi projector-PJTX100 --not 1080p--but still the same price as the NEC1100

 

[brian32672]

So is the NEC1100 or Sony VPL-HS51 a good projector to watch HDTV satellite-sports mostly (hockey, football) on and DVD and alot of X-boxing.
Also will the new HD-DVD support current DVD format or will I be replacing my 200+ current DVD's ?
Also thinking about the hitachi projector-PJTX100 --not 1080p--but still the same price as the NEC1100

Yes, this would be fine. Specially for sports from tv. Being sports will be 4:3 format. And all or most projectors can be switched to 16:9. But this particular projector is 4:3 native. I beleive NEC also sells a anormorphic lens. So it would be even more true to 16:9 But as stated, the projector will support and do a 16:9 format. You would just need to do some masking if wanted. Most of the time, with my 4:3 format-when watching 16:9 I usually do not mask. But it does help for the eye to perceive a brighter image when you do masking for the 16:9 format... IMO..

 

[BMXTRIX]

AVOID 4:3 - Here is my reasoning

1. HDTV should be available in your area and all HD broadcasts will be 16:9
2. Many sporting events are broadcast in HD
3. If you buy 4:3 then buy a screen, when you want to upgrade you have to switch out the projector and the screen again (I have a friend doing this right now)
4. Widescreen DVDs (like LOTR) preserve the cinematographers original vision for the movie and should always be considered over 4:3 versions. You get a more accurate video.
5. HD discs are a year away and will be very high quality optomized for 16:9 projectors.
6. A 4:3 projector with an anamorphic lens means that everytime you switch from 4:3 material to 16:9 material you are putting the lens on, then taking it back off. Not the worst thing in the world, but do you really want to do that?
7. 4:3 material on a 16:9 uses less of the screen. But, the only time you would have 4:3 material would be to watch regular TV or VCR tapes which are of lower quality. With a 4:3 screen the poor quality images would be BIG, then when watching HDTV or a good DVD the 16:9 image would be made smaller. That makes no sense at all. Go with a 16:9 screen then shrink stuff down to 4:3 when you go with poorer quality material.
8. There are masking systems available for about $500.00 that mounts over your 16:9 fixed screen to allow for 4:3 material to be properly bordered as well as 2.35:1 DVD movies (many DVDs are 2.35:1 which puts black borders above and below on a 16:9 screen).
9. The future is not 4:3, it is 16:9, do you want to buy into obsolesence?
10. Since most walls are wider then they are tall, a 16:9 screen will fit better and look more natural on your wall.
11. 16:9 is a format designed to be more natural for your eyes to view.
12. X-Box 360 & PS3 - All games will be widescreen HD.

There are a dozen reasons off the top of my head.

Now - WHAT IS YOUR BUDGET?

It sounds like you really don't have much of any budget and are looking for a bargain basement projector, not one of the $10,000+ projectors but something more in the $2,000ish range.

At that range you have the one you mentioned (Hitachi) as well as the Sanyo Z3, Panasonic AE-700U, the Sony HS51, the InFocus SP5000 and a few others. You also are close to the entry level 720p DLP mark, so you may want to consider the Sharp Z2000 or one of the BenQ models.

Even less money (around $1K) are the 480p projectors which will handle all current ATSC resolutions including 480i, 480p, 720p, and 1080i. These DLP projectors really look amazing with the InFocus SP4805 and the Optoma H31 coming in as standout models that you should seriously consider if you are really tight on your budget.

Have you looked at Projector Central's website yet? They are to projectors (almost) what this site is to audio gear.

 

[brian32672]

9. The future is not 4:3, it is 16:9, do you want to buy into obsolesence?

Obviously this is your opinion. I will stick with obsolescence.

But really, obsolesence is a strong word. The dvd makers, know that everyone does not have a one track mind. I had said that I have both formats. The latest 2 dvd's out Million Dollar Baby & Constatine BOTH ARE AVAILABLE IN 4:3..........

I do not watch that much tv, but when I do its mainly sports. And as of now, I have never seen a sports show in 16:9. In HD yes, but not widescreen ever. Oh the bars with statistics may make it seem like widescreen, but they do go away. And these are in HDTV, same with some series on tv.

 

[brian32672]

Forgot to add, I have about 100+ series discs, Dead Like Me, Smallville, Taken, Quantum Leap, Alias, Archives of War, Baseball (Ken Burns), Civil War (Ken Burns), Best of the Muppet Show, Century of Warfare, Dark Angel, Dukes of Hazzard, The Family Guy, The Simpsons, (a few Friends Seasons), The Hitchhiker, The Incredible Hulk (1978-1979), Kung Fu, Mork and Mindy, Roswell, Seinfeld, Shogun, Six Feet Under, Vietnam, The West (Ken Burns), World History of Organized Crime, etc...etc....

And about 98% of those are in Full Screen format. IMO, I would feel I would loose a lot of my screen by going 16:9 but less if I mask for 16:9

With my 120" screen, I get full screen at 120" and when I use it for 16:9 I end up using 110"

However, with 16:9 screen I would loose much more. For a 110" widescreen a full screen image drops to 90"

Sorry, but as stated above the dvd makers know there are 4:3 buffs. So 98%+ of the series discs will be in 4:3 and usually the decent movies are available in full screen format.

I could give a list of all the full screen dvd's I have. But that would take a long time. I do have Million Dollar Baby, and do plan on getting Constatine. Both in 4:3 full screen.

As I had stated above I do have both formats. And I am not trying to force my opinion on a person by saying that 16:9 is the only way to go, and that 4:3 is obsolite. If the person like either format, then I had given him a choice of both formats for the projector. But by knocking, a projector that has both lense available and telling him its not worth it. Well isn't that his choice....

 

[brian32672]

Here is my list, but there about 100 movies not on this list. Mostly the ones I have gotten in the last 3 months. And I would say about 80% of these are Full Screen.


Set 007 James Bond (20 + 1 Discs)
1- Dr. No
2- From Russia with Love
3- Goldfinger
4- Thunderball
5- You Only Live Twice
6- On Her Majesty's Secret Service
7- Diamonds are Forever
8- Live and Let Die
9- The Man With the Golden Gun
10- The Spy Who Loved Me
11- Moonraker
12- For Your Eyes Only
13- Octopussy
14- A View to a Kill
15- The Living Daylights
16- Licence to Kill
17- Goldeneye
18- Tomorrow Never Dies
19- The World is Not Enough
20- Die Another Day
21* Never Say Never Again
* (21*)(Not included in regular Bond Collection)
644 2 Fast 2 Furious
810 3: The Dale Earnhardt Story
739 The 6th Day
895 8 Seconds
Set The 10th Kingdom (Miniseries) Discs 1-3
27 Disc 1
28 Disc 2
29 Disc 3
10 12 Monkeys
185 13 Going on 30
478 The 13th Warrior
65 21 Grams
790 25th Hour
Set 48 Hrs. (2 Discs)
1- 48 Hrs.
2- Another 48 Hrs.
15 50 First Dates
334 61*
Set 101 Dalmatians (Disney)(2 Discs)
1- 101 Dalmatians (Disney)
2- 102 Dalmatians (Disney)
791 1941
389 2001: A Space Odyssey
284 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (Disney)
689 About Schmidt
550 The Absent Minded Professor (Disney)
528 Ace Ventura: Pet Detective
830 Adaption
Set The Addam's Family
606 The Addam’s Family
756 Addam's Family Values
70 Adventure's in Babysitting
522 The Adventures of Pluto Nash
370 An Affair to Remember
941 After the Sunset
161 Against the Ropes
Set Agent Cody Banks (2 Discs)
701 Agent Cody Banks
702 Agent Cody Banks 2: Destination London
546 Air Force One
434 Airplane
341 Aladdin (Disney)
421 The Alamo
Set Alias Season 3 Discs 1-6
1- The Two, Succession, Reunion, A Missing Link
2- Repercussions, The Nemesis, Prelude, Breaking Point
3- Conscious, Remnants, Full Disclosure, Crossings
4- After Six, Blowback, Facade, Taken
5- The Frame, Unveiled, Houglass, Blood Ties
6- Legacy, Resurrection, (special features)
335 Alice in Wonderland (Disney)
Set Alien (2 Discs)
1011 Alien
406 Aliens (aka; Alien 2)
865 Alien vs. Predator
743 All of Me
246 Almost Famous
258 Along Came a Spider
162 Along Came Polly
466 Amadeus
435 American Gigolo
Set American Pie Discs 1-3
690 (1) American Pie
75 (2) American Pie 2
21 (3) American Wedding
128 The American President
331 An American Tail (Disney)
201 America's Sweethearts
395 The Amityville Horror
Set Analyze This (2 Discs)
1- Analyze This
2- Analyze That
Set Ancient Mysteries: Myths and Legends (A&E Channel 2 Discs)
914 Vol.1: Camelot, The Quest for the Holy Grail
915 Vol.2: Atlantis the Lost Civilization, Dragons
64 Angels in the Outfield (Disney)
303 Anger Management
688 The Animal
214 Animal House
388 Annie
368 Any Which Way You Can
130 Anything Else
105 Apocalypse Now
983 Apollo 13
523 The Apple Dumpling Gang
Set Archives of War Disc 1-3
916 Vol.1: WW1 and the interwar years, WW2 the Leaders
917 Vol.2: WW2 The Battles, The Cold War
918 Vol.3: Korea, Vietnam
272 Armageddon
867 Army of One
919 Around the World in 80 Days (Disney 2004 Version)
843 Arsenic and Old Lace
35 Arthur
549 Artificial Intelligence: A.I.
305 As Good as it Gets
551 At First Sight
391 Atlantis: The Lost Empire (Disney)
Set Austin Powers Discs 1-3
1- International Man of Mystery
2- The Spy Who Shagged Me
3- Goldmember
807 The Awful Truth
592 The Babe
Set Babe (Disney)(2 Discs)
1- Babe (Disney)
2- Babe 2 Pig in the City (Disney)
798 The Bachelor
1003 Bachelor Party
520 Back to School
Set Back to the Future Discs 1-3
1- Back to the Future
2- Back to the Future Part 2
3- Back to the Future Part 3
Set Bad Boys (2 Discs)
792 Bad Boys
376 Bad Boys 2
227 Bad News Bears
94 Bad Santa
960 Bambi (Disney)
228 Bang the Drum Slowly
304 The Banger Sisters
403 Barbarella
1004 Barefoot in the Park
Set Baseball (A Film By Ken Burns) Discs 1-9
1- Our Game 1840's to 1900
2- Something Like a War 1900 to 1910
3- The Faith of Fifty Million People 1910 to 1920
4- A National Heirloom 1920 to 1930
5- Shadow Ball 1930 to 1940
6- The National Pastime 1940 to 1950
7- The Capital of Baseball 1950 to 1960
8- A Whole New Ballgame 1960 to 1970
9- Home 1970 to 1994
95 Basic
343 Basic Instinct
920 Bat 21
Set Batman Discs 1-4
1- Batman
2- Batman Returns
3- Batman Forever
4- Batman and Robin
519 Beaches
323 Beautiful
226 A Beautiful Mind
518 Beauty and the Beast (Disney)
667 Beavis and Butt-Head Do America
607 Bedazzled
328 Bedknobs and Broomsticks (Disney)
691 Beethoven (Disney)
99 Beethovens 5th (Disney)
744 Before Sunset
193 Behind Enemy Lines
275 Bell, Book, and Candle
692 Bend it Like Beckham
811 The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
Set The Best of the Muppet Show Discs 1-3
769 Muppet Show Disc 1 (H.Belafonte, L.Ronstadt, John Denver)
770 Muppet Show Disc 2 (Elton John, Julie Andrews, Gene Kelly)
771 Muppet Show Disc 3 (Steve Martin, Carol Burnett, Gilda Radner)
597 Bicentennial Man
367 Big
207 The Big Bounce
400 Big Business
683 Big Daddy
693 Big Fish
118 Big Mommas House
684 Billy Madison
775 Biloxi Blues
980 Bio-Dome
322 The Birdcage
812 The Bishop's Wife
475 Black Beauty
296 Black Hawk Down
180 Black Knight
357 The Black Stallion
Set Blade (2 Discs)
1- Blade
2- Blade 2
106 Blade Runner
12 Blast From the Past
717 Blazing Saddles
745 Bloodsport
Set The Blue and the Gray Discs 1-3
746 Disc 1
747 Disc 2
748 Disc 3
799 Blue Man Group Live: The Complex Tour
935 The Blues Brothers
234 The Body
1012 The Bodygaurd
436 Bonnie and Clyde
Set Bourne Identity (2 Discs)
177 The Bourne Identity
712 The Bourne Supremacy
949 Boy's Don't Cry
50 Braveheart
377 Breakdown
407 The Breakfast Club
604 Brewster's Millions
VHS Brian's Song
Set Bridget Jones Diary (2 Discs)
117 Bridget Jones Diary
959 Bridget Jones Diary 2: Edge of Reason
273 Bringing Down the House
VHS Broken Arrow
378 Bronco Billy
311 A Bronx Tale
800 Brooklyn Bridge: A Film By Ken Burn's
104 Bruce Almighty
608 Buffy the Vampire Slayer
757 A Bug's Life (Disney)
749 Bulletproof
159 Bulletproof Monk
155 The Butterfly Effect
Set Caddyshack (2 Discs)
279 Caddyshack
694 Caddyshack 2
942 Caligula (UNCUT-NOT FOR CHILDREN)
200 Call of the Wild
237 Camelot
718 Captain Ron
359 Car Wash
645 Carbon Copy
245 Casino
506 Casper
467 Cast Away
582 The Cat From Outer Space (Disney)
229 Catch Me if You Can
301 The Cell
861 Cellular
151 Center Stage
Set The Century of Warfare (History Channel Presents) Discs 1-7
878 Century of Warfare Vol. 1
879 Century of Warfare Vol. 2
880 Century of Warfare Vol. 3
881 Century of Warfare Vol. 4
882 Century of Warfare Vol. 5
883 Century of Warfare Vol. 6
884 Century of Warfare Vol. 7
259 Changing Lanes
813 Charade
564 A Charlie Brown Christmas & It's Christmas Time Again, C. Brown
Set Charlie's Angels (2 Discs)
1- Charlie's Angels
2- Charlie's Angels 2 Full Throttle
565 Charlotte's Web
45 Cheaper By the Dozen
754 Cheech & Chong's Corsican Brothers
325 Cheech & Chong's Next Movie
595 Cheech & Chong's Nice Dreams
710 Cheech & Chong's Things are Tough all Over
540 Cheech & Chong's Up in Smoke
379 Chicago
463 Chicken Run (Puppet animated)
499 Children of the Corn
583 Chilly Dogs
5 Chitty Chitty Bang Bang
339 A Christmas Story
868 The Chronicles of Riddick
755 A Cinderella Story
404 Citizen X
668 City Slickers
347 City of Angels
Set The Civil War (A Film by Ken Burns) Discs 1-5
776 Civil War Disc 1 (1861)
777 Civil War Disc 2 (1862)
778 Civil War Disc 3 (1863)
779 Civil War Disc 4 (1864)
780 Civil War Disc 5 (1865)
290 Clash of the Titans
984 Class
735 The Clearing
138 The Client
353 Clockstoppers
230 A Clockwork Orange
135 Close Encounters of the Third Kind
659 Close Your Eyes
609 Cobb
393 Coca Cola (A History of an American Icon)
985 Cocktail
67 Cold Mountain
797 Collateral
276 Collateral Damage
621 Commando
255 Con Air
362 Coneheads
241 Connie and Carla
869 Conspiracy
624 Conspiracy Theory
397 Contact
102 The Core
209 Corky Romano
890 Corvette Summer (vhs transfer)
39 Coyote Ugly
943 Creepshow
961 Criminal
442 CrissCross
30 Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
1005 The Crow
625 Curly Sue
56 The Cutting Edge
158 Daddy & Them
134 Daddy Day Care
703 Darby O'Gill and the Little People (Disney)
167 Daredevil
Set Dark Angel Season 1 Discs 1-6
1- Dark Angel (Pilot), Heat, Flushed
2- C.R.E.A.M, 411 on the DL, Prodigy, Cold Comfort
3- Blah Blah Woof Woof, Out, Red
4- Art Attack, Rising, The Kidz Are Aiight, Femal Trouble
5- Haven, Shorties in Love, Pollo Loco, I and I am a Camera
6- Hit a Sista Back, MEOW, And Jesus Brought a Casserole
360 Dark Blue
457 The Dark Prince: The True Story of Dracula (aka:Vlad the Impaler)
1013 Das Boot (Disc 1)
1014 Das Boot (Disc 2)
511 The Day After Tomorrow
921 The Day of the Jackal
236 Days of Thunder
Set Dead Like Me Season 1 Discs 1-4
1- Pilot, (Special Features)
2- Dead Girl Walking, Curious George, Reapercussion,
- Reaping Havoc, My Room
3- Reaper Madness, A Cook, Sunday Mornings,
- Business Unfinished
4- The Bicycle Thief, Nighthawks, Vacation, Rest in Peace
531 Death Race 2000
610 Defending Your Life
814 Demolition Man
643 Deuce Bigalow: Male Gigolo
510 The Devil's Own
948 Digital Video Essentials (DVE)(Not a movie, For Setting up video)
443 Diner
Set Dirty Dancing (2 Discs)
1- Dirty Dancing
2- Dirty Dancing Havana Nights
450 Dirty Deeds
256 Dirty Harry
43 Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood
90 Doc Hollywood
264 Doctor Zhivago (Side A)
265 Doctor Zhivago (Side B)
524 Domestic Disturbance
656 Donnie Darko
71 Double Jeopardy
294 Down Periscope
401 Down with Love
231 Dr. Strangelove
62 Dracula (1931)(Bela Lugosi)
369 Dracula (1992)(Gary Oldman)
611 Dragonheart 2: A New Beginning
944 The Dream Team
274 Driven
108 Driving Miss Daisy

 

[brian32672]

Uhm, it would only allow for me to post 10,000 characters. The above is almost a quarter of the list. (probably more like 1/5)(because S and T are very long)

I believe it only got up to the D section.
Keeps going with Dukes of Hazzard Season 1 & 2 total of 12 discs. Etc.......

 

[BMXTRIX]

People are free to buy whatever they want, but movies aren't (typically) shot 4:3, and buying 4:3 discs is always an option. But, I believe that this year that widescreen HDTV sales are expected to be higher than 4:3 TV sales.

My opinion is not that 16:9 is the future.

16:9 is the future is a fact. 16:9, as of this year, will be the sales majority.

People can choose what they want, but I expect that people won't find 4:3 discs on HD-DVD or Blu-Ray Disc unless they were originally shot 4:3. So, shows like Smallville & Dead Like Me, which were originally filmed in HD glory, can be fully appreciated when they are released on HD discs.

Really, not arguing - just pointing out a dozen reasons that I consider important. So far, I haven't heard much other than you already own a bunch of 4:3 stuff and don't want to change. That's a good reason, but does it apply to someone looking to buy for the first time and may want to take advantage of current and future technologies?