1 Ohm stable amplifiers (inexpensive)

[3db]

I can't imagine tube amps can do better driving loads of low impedance and/or large phase angles. As far as I know they do better with higher or at least not too fluctuating impedance loads that are resistive to slightly inductive.

I don't know. Thats why I asked that question. I think alot of people inclluding myself do not have a good handle on tube amps in general and tend to dismiss them as old technology without really understanding their merits.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Tube vs Solid State.

Tube amps were not made in consideration of today movie soundtracks with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. And also multichannel SACD and DVD-Audio music high dynamic swings. And also with today reactive loads from speakers.

Tube amps are fun and warm for 2-channel music listening.

Solid state amps are made for solid multichannel power delivery in mind.

Bob

 

[3db]

Tube amps were not made in consideration of today movie soundtracks with Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. And also multichannel SACD and DVD-Audio music high dynamic swings. And also with today reactive loads from speakers.

Tube amps are fun and warm for 2-channel music listening.

Solid state amps are made for solid multichannel power delivery in mind.

Bob

That your opinion Bob but that doesn't make it right or wrong nor does it address the comment that most people in here do not really understand tube amps.

 

[Lordoftherings]

That your opinion Bob but that doesn't make it right or wrong nor does it address the comment that most people in here do not really understand tube amps.

Not at all, you misread me. I'm just saying the main facts. There are a lot of articles about this very subject. Easy for anyone to get access to.

Anyway, what are you doing so early in the day? Or are you from another time zone?

 

[3db]

Not at all, you misread me. I'm just saying the main facts. There are a lot of articles about this very subject. Easy for anyone to get access to.

Anyway, what are you doing so early in the day? Or are you from another time zone?

Dude, your the one up early being on PST. I'm in Ontario..You should be still be in bed.

 

[Lordoftherings]

Dude, your the one up early being on PST. I'm in Ontario..You should be still be in bed.

I don't have time to rest. When I'll get bury or cremated, plenty of rest then.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Want more?

http://www.symphonysound.com/articles/tubefriendly.html

This reminds me of the "commercials" in ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS ----> "Would you like to know more?"

 

[PENG]

This reminds me of the "commercials" in ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS ----> "Would you like to know more?"

I don't disagree based on the source, but I thought the contents seem accurate enough in this case for safe consumption.

 

[PENG]

I understand the math PENG and I'm not knocking the Denon's output. But I'm also not blindly pumping out the specs without a real understanding of them. I also never just looked at phase angle below and if you see my other posts about that, I even stated that a 4 ohm dip wasn't a bad thing as long as the phase angle was small at a non bass frequency.

I know you know the math. My point is, while it is true that the rated output of most receivers could drop to only a few watts if matched with hard to drive speakers, it does not apply to amps like that Denon. If that Denon can in fact deliver almost 400W into 1 ohm, it would still have enough left (for the average H.T. rooms) for loads that present large phase angles, even if such phase angle peaks occur coincidentally with the impedance dips. Unless such large phase angles are near 90 degrees and span over a more than insignificant bandwidth but if such speakers exist I would avoid them even if they are free..

 

[3db]

I know you know the math. My point is, while it is true that the rated output of most receivers could drop to only a few watts if matched with hard to drive speakers, it does not apply to amps like that Denon. If that Denon can in fact deliver almost 400W into 1 ohm, it would still have enough left (for the average H.T. rooms) for loads that present large phase angles, even if such phase angle peaks occur coincidentally with the impedance dips. Unless such large phase angles are near 90 degrees and span over a more than insignificant bandwidth but if such speakers exist I would avoid them even if they are free..

*LMFAO* Good one PENG..

 

[Lordoftherings]

Want more?

http://www.symphonysound.com/articles/tubefriendly.html

Hey Peng, any time. Thanks a lot.

 

[Lordoftherings]

This reminds me of the "commercials" in ROBOCOP and STARSHIP TROOPERS ----> "Would you like to know more?"

* Below is Peng response to AcuDefTechGuy post from above. ^

I don't disagree based on the source, but I thought the contents seem accurate enough in this case for safe consumption.

Indeed.