Pre-amp or no pre-amp?

[Sparky90277]

Hey Audio Peeps, I'm new to this site and a beginner with audio equip. I need help to determine if my Pioneer Elite SC-61 has a built in pre-amp.

I would like to use my free/inherited Yamaha P-17 turntable. Yes, I said it.

After locating a new power cord from MonoPrice, what a website, I plugged the turntable in and viola' it works. My only problem, if its even a problem, is that the volume of sound is very low. I'm sure most of you experts know the root of this problem but I have been researching and it sounds like I either need a pre-amp or need to adjust a setting on my on-screen menu for the receiver.

If anyone can help, I'm much obliged.

Sparky90277

 

[markw]

I see nothing to indicate it has a built in phono prteamp and the owners manual takes too long to download.

You might want to check it yourself or, better yet, are there input jacks labeled "Phono"?

 

[Sparky90277]

Hey markw,
Thanks for the reply. No, nothing labeled "phono" but I did read the manual and the "cd-in" is an analog channel. My other problem is that I need to bring my HDMI tv into the room to use the on-screen menu for the receiver in the event I need to make a setting adjustment.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks

 

[fuzz092888]

The SC61 doesn't have a phono section so you'll need to purchase one. If you just want to be able to use the TT then you can purchase a phono preamp for as little as $15 or $20 and then upgrade it if you become more serious and buy a better TT or simply upgrade your receiver to one that has a phono in, in the future.

Amazon.com: phono preamp

 

[TLS Guy]

Hey markw,
Thanks for the reply. No, nothing labeled "phono" but I did read the manual and the "cd-in" is an analog channel. My other problem is that I need to bring my HDMI tv into the room to use the on-screen menu for the receiver in the event I need to make a setting adjustment.

What are your thoughts?

Thanks

A CD input is an analog line input. In other words it needs about a volt for full modulation. It is also linear and the output is not frequency dependent.

A turntable on the hand needs a high gain analog input with RIAA equalization. There is a HF pre emphasis in the recording, which needs correction on play back. Most cartridges have and output if 3 to 5 milli volts, and not a volt, which is why what you are hearing is low volume and tinny.

 

[Sparky90277]

Wow, very cool. Thanks to both fuzz09888 and TLS Guy. For now I will just work on getting an in-expensive pre-amp.

Does anyone have a suggestion on a pre-amp, (i.e. part # or web link)?

Thanks again....

 

[TLS Guy]

Wow, very cool. Thanks to both fuzz09888 and TLS Guy. For now I will just work on getting an in-expensive pre-amp.

Does anyone have a suggestion on a pre-amp, (i.e. part # or web link)?

Thanks again....

This one has long been recognized as good performance for the money.

 

[fuzz092888]

There's this one

Amazon.com: Pro-Ject Audio - Phono Box MM - MM Phono Pre-amplifier - Black: Electronics

If it's too pricey just go on amazon and search for phono preamp and you'll get some results. Find a few that fit the price point you're looking to spend and come back and ask about them.

 

[Sparky90277]

TLS Guy, the link does not work. Will you send again?

Thanks

 

[Sparky90277]

TLS Guy, the link does not work. Will you send again?

Thanks

 

[Sparky90277]

I'll check it....Thanks again

 

[TLS Guy]

TLS Guy, the link does not work. Will you send again?

Thanks

Lets try again.

I tested it this time!

 

[Sparky90277]

Got it, thank you.

 

[Pat D]

TLS Guy, the link does not work. Will you send again?

Thanks

It worked for me. Here's a whole llist:

Amazon.com: phono preamp: Electronics

 

[macddmac]

I use this one due to a long cable run
Amazon.com: Rolls VP29 - Phono preamplifier: GPS & Navigation

 

[Sparky90277]

To Macddmac

I just ordered the Rolls VP29. I'm hoping to get it tomorrow (Friday) in the mail. I'll let you guys know if it works and how well too.

 

[Sparky90277]

Okay, so I just hooked up the Rolls pre-amp and success.......Now my only issue is that there is no sound coming from my two rear speakers. I have a (now don't cringe) Bose 5.1
Also, I do have a slight crackle but I assume that's to be expected.

Do I now need to make an adjustment to my settings on the Pioneer SC-61 for the rears to work???? And how???? The manual does not have specific instructions for this or at least I have not found it yet.

Thanks in advance....

 

[TLS Guy]

Okay, so I just hooked up the Rolls pre-amp and success.......Now my only issue is that there is no sound coming from my two rear speakers. I have a (now don't cringe) Bose 5.1
Also, I do have a slight crackle but I assume that's to be expected.

Do I now need to make an adjustment to my settings on the Pioneer SC-61 for the rears to work???? And how???? The manual does not have specific instructions for this or at least I have not found it yet.

Thanks in advance....

Don't even think about trying to play vinyl with matrix surround, it sounds terrible. Vinyl is two channel stereo and needs to be played back that way.

If you have crackle, then you have noisy surfaces on your LP.s from poor care over the years. Pressings varied as to quality and some were noisy right out of the jacket, especially US pressings. I used to try and keep to European pressings.

You know you need to get rid of those Bose speakers.