Can one have a subwoofer thats too big for a room

[3db]

Please let me elaborate on this question. I've seen far too many posts that indicate that onecan have speakers that over power a room. I don't get that logic at all because one can always turn down the volume. And on the opposite side of the arguement, one can have small bookshelves with good power handling capabilities that could also over power a room by playing it too loud. I extend this train of thought to subwoofers. Is it possible to have a sub that's simply too big for a room? Please leave WAF and physical size out of it.

 

[Adam]

Please leave WAF and physical size out of it.

When it comes to something being too "big," those are the only considerations that come to mind. If you mean, can a sub be too powerful for a room, then I'd say it follows your logic on speakers - sure, a sub can be played too loudly, but it can always be turned down. I'm assuming that one can properly place the sub and that it isn't incapable of a proper frequency response.

 

[Irvrobinson]

If that were true Fuzz would have blown up his room up by now, with that 300lb, dual LMS5400 monster he built.

 

[Adam]

If that were true Fuzz would have blown up his room up by now, with that 300lb, dual LMS5400 monster he built.

We haven't seen any pictures of his room recently. Coincidence? Hmmm...

 

[ImcLoud]

yes, I think you can, but nothing a bigger door wouldn't fix..

As far as overpowering a room and turning down the volume, I think {not positive} some speakers sound better at certain volumes, I know I have a set of bookshelfs that sound really good when played around 93db, but when played at low volume they sound sub par... I have others that sound good at low volumes and dont hold up at high volumes,,,, this could be my ears because i don't know if speakers measure different at different volumes...

 

[3db]

Based on what I've read so far, the loudspeaker being too big for a room is incorrect.

 

[fuzz092888]

If that were true Fuzz would have blown up his room up by now, with that 300lb, dual LMS5400 monster he built.

My point exactly

I feel as though many seem to think that just because a speaker or subwoofer is capable of 120+db's (or what have you) that when they hook it up it will just play that loud on its own and there's nothing they can do about it. The reason for wanting a speaker or subwoofer that can play that loudly without going into thermal compression or distorting horribly is 1) if you enjoy deafness or 2) enjoy Reference quality playback/listen to music/watch movies with a large dynamic range. If not than good for you, since it will save you a lot of money

Once properly leveled, a system no matter what its capabilities, will only play as loud as you allow it to. Which is why many preach that you can never have enough speaker/subwoofer, only too little.

If I fed the dual LMS Monster 6000 watts, it would probably blow my front door off the hinges, and by all means it can play much much much louder than I ever care to try even with only 800+ watts/driver. Remember, whatever you hope to get out of sub/speaker, it must be capable of much more in order to do what you want it to without any hint of strain or misbehavior.

 

[TLS Guy]

Based on what I've read so far, the loudspeaker being too big for a room is incorrect.

You are correct. A speaker or sub will not be too big for a room, as long as it fits in.

However powerful systems could reproduce an explosion with the same destructive results.

I'm pretty certain I could push out the windows, if I did not take care.

 

[3db]

I guess the fallacy of a loudspeaker being too large for a room is just that a fallacy and that fallacy also includes subs. Thanks guys. I always thought that statement sounded much like snake oil.

 

[ImcLoud]

my vtf2 cracked my plaster ceiling, and that was just one playing at a decent level during gi joe, I had the ceiling fixed and turned the sub up about a week later to see if it was actually my sub that did it and it did it in a new spot same style crack, havent had that fixed yet..

 

[Irvrobinson]

my vtf2 cracked my plaster ceiling, and that was just one playing at a decent level during gi joe, I had the ceiling fixed and turned the sub up about a week later to see if it was actually my sub that did it and it did it in a new spot same style crack, havent had that fixed yet..

My sub apparently did something similar, dislodging the spackle over a nail head on my ceiling. Since the visible nail head is about eighteen feet up it would require scaffolding to repair it, so I haven't yet. Moisture in the spackle rusted the nail head, and it looks to some people like a bug, and to others like I have roof leak. It's very annoying.

 

[ImcLoud]

Amazon.com: Little Giant Ladders 10110 SkyScraper 300-Pound Duty Rating Adjustable Stepladder, 17-Foot: Home Improvement best money you will ever spend if you have high ceilings, I have a chandelier that is 16 feet off the floor, some ceilings that are over 20, a porch that has 15 foot ceilings, all of which this ladder stops me from haivng to set up scaffolding for, I have the 17 ft and the 21ft models they are expensive but well worth it... the good news is the plaster is cheap...
My 21footer can be laid down acroos two buildings and walked across, Im not sure if its directed to be used that way but my brother does it all the time, we have a couple buildings that are around 15feet apart and he lays the ladder across and walks across, it doesnt even bend a little...

 

[jcl]

I moved and primary listening room went from a larger office with a cathedral ceiling to a smaller room with a 9' ceiling. My VR-3s haven't sounded as good in the smaller room. Obviously room acoustics are the major part of the equation. However, I always felt that the speakers sounded best when played above a certain volume level (even in the old room), and in the smaller room that's just louder than I care to listen. Perhaps it's just my mind playing tricks on me, it's an easy trap to fall into.

 

[Irvrobinson]

Amazon.com: Little Giant Ladders 10110 SkyScraper 300-Pound Duty Rating Adjustable Stepladder, 17-Foot: Home Improvement best money you will ever spend if you have high ceilings,

Good pointer, but I'm waaay too much of a coward about heights to use a ladder like that.

 

[ImcLoud]

Good pointer, but I'm waaay too much of a coward about heights to use a ladder like that.

LOL, whats to be afraid of if you fall at least you didn't have to climb all the way down, that's a little rock climbing joke, when we go rock climbing {indoor lol, with harnesses, don't judge me its for the workout} I never climb back down, I just let go and push away from the wall the harness lets you down nice and easy... And my brother will never do it, he is deathly afraid that thing will let loose and smash him to the ground... this place is great, I wish it was closer, do the v-tour it is freaky, I have been at least a dozen times, if it was down the street from me I would never leave.. Sports Center at Chelsea Piers Virtual Tour


With the ladder 2 people can climb at the same time, so you can get your wife to hold your hand from the other side if you get scared...

 

[markw]

Most definitely.

Just ask this guy.

 

[fuzz092888]

I have one of those, albeit a smaller one. Coolest ladder ever, albeit a bit heavy compared to the plastic ACE ladder for hoofing around for the odd job here and there.

Amazon.com: Little Giant Ladders 10110 SkyScraper 300-Pound Duty Rating Adjustable Stepladder, 17-Foot: Home Improvement best money you will ever spend if you have high ceilings, I have a chandelier that is 16 feet off the floor, some ceilings that are over 20, a porch that has 15 foot ceilings, all of which this ladder stops me from haivng to set up scaffolding for, I have the 17 ft and the 21ft models they are expensive but well worth it... the good news is the plaster is cheap...
My 21footer can be laid down acroos two buildings and walked across, Im not sure if its directed to be used that way but my brother does it all the time, we have a couple buildings that are around 15feet apart and he lays the ladder across and walks across, it doesnt even bend a little...

 

[Irvrobinson]

With the ladder 2 people can climb at the same time, so you can get your wife to hold your hand from the other side if you get scared...

Don't laugh... she offered to climb it if I bought it.

 

[mtrycrafts]

I guess the fallacy of a loudspeaker being too large for a room is just that a fallacy and that fallacy also includes subs. Thanks guys. I always thought that statement sounded much like snake oil.

As TLs indicated, physical size is the limit if WAF, $$$ not in the limiting factors bowl.
Urban legends and the snakes live forever.

 

[ImcLoud]

Don't laugh... she offered to climb it if I bought it.

I had it outside all the way up 21' trimming some trees, and my wife climbed up one side over the top and down the other, but she is also 120 lbs and a dance "major" lol, the ladder didn't even wobble, where as with me on it, it is shaking and moving all over the place, I am at the weight limit and at times over it...