Steve Jobs: All the work that I've done in my life... will be obsolete by the time I'm...

[haraldo]

Steve Jobs: All the work that I've done in my life... will be obsolete by the time I'm... 50 !

 

[haraldo]

And here's an update to that.....

 

[lsiberian]

Maybe the things he made are obsolete even now, but without him we'd still be in the Dark Ages of computing. He is that rare combination of innovator and communicator, but the good news is there are many more like him Elon Musk is revolutionizing transportation much like Jobs revolutionized computing. These guys inspire me.

 

[haraldo]

I never owned and iphone or mac, but...... I admire Steve Jobs till the end of the world

The people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do

This videos speak for itself

 

[avengineer]

I owned an Apple ][+, a Mac +, a PowerPC, G4, iMac G4, iMac g5, MacPro G5, Macbook Pro 3,1 , iMac 12,1 and a MacPro (2008) until today when I type this on a Macbook Pro 10,1. I've also owned many Windows machines too over the years, and I can recall none of them clearly, except for the Toshiba Satellite I bought new in early 2012, and sold two months ago because it was simply the worst, least usable computer I ever owned (Windows 7? Really?). I use OS X every day, and Windows every other day. I have owned iPods from the original Shuffle through Classics, Touch, Nano and iPhone 3 and 4, as well as a Sanza Clip+, an iPad and iPad 2, as well as an Android tablet. I've had every version of Windows since 3.1, including NT, and ending at 7 (skipped Vista). I have compared both hardware and software, including the OS.

None of the non-apple products are/were as easy to use, as fun to use, or as well built as Apple products, right down to the lowly Sansa Clip+, which while cheap and capable, fails operationally and physically to compare to an iPod of any kind. I know I sound like an Apple Fanboy, but I have given other products more than a fair shot; the Windows computers weren't cheap generics, but Dells, HPs, Compaq and Toshiba. Ihad every version of Windows since 3.1, including NT, and ending at 7 (skipped Vista). I have compared both hardware and software, including the OS. For me, Apple always wins unless there is a specific application that is simply not available for the platform.

I solute Apple and Steve for making my life with computers far more pleasant that it would have otherwise been, and opening creative opportunities that would otherwise have been inaccessible.

And my favorite Windows computer is a Macbook Pro.

 

[lsiberian]

I owned an Apple ][+, a Mac +, a PowerPC, G4, iMac G4, iMac g5, MacPro G5, Macbook Pro 3,1 , iMac 12,1 and a MacPro (2008) until today when I type this on a Macbook Pro 10,1. I've also owned many Windows machines too over the years, and I can recall none of them clearly, except for the Toshiba Satellite I bought new in early 2012, and sold two months ago because it was simply the worst, least usable computer I ever owned (Windows 7? Really?). I use OS X every day, and Windows every other day. I have owned iPods from the original Shuffle through Classics, Touch, Nano and iPhone 3 and 4, as well as a Sanza Clip+, an iPad and iPad 2, as well as an Android tablet. I've had every version of Windows since 3.1, including NT, and ending at 7 (skipped Vista). I have compared both hardware and software, including the OS.

None of the non-apple products are/were as easy to use, as fun to use, or as well built as Apple products, right down to the lowly Sansa Clip+, which while cheap and capable, fails operationally and physically to compare to an iPod of any kind. I know I sound like an Apple Fanboy, but I have given other products more than a fair shot; the Windows computers weren't cheap generics, but Dells, HPs, Compaq and Toshiba. Ihad every version of Windows since 3.1, including NT, and ending at 7 (skipped Vista). I have compared both hardware and software, including the OS. For me, Apple always wins unless there is a specific application that is simply not available for the platform.

I solute Apple and Steve for making my life with computers far more pleasant that it would have otherwise been, and opening creative opportunities that would otherwise have been inaccessible.

And my favorite Windows computer is a Macbook Pro.

Google and Samsung appear to be the new kings of innovation in computing though. The new Galaxy phones are much better than the iPhone IMO.

 

[haraldo]

Unison is one of my favorite tools at the moment, it makes it possible to synchronize several file systems, you can do updates in any of the file systems and unison will make it so it's always up to date with the latest mods, never seen this work very well in Windows, although it should be possible to make it work in Windows....
Unison File Synchronizer

Anyone using this on OS X?

 

[fuzz092888]

Google and Samsung appear to be the new kings of innovation in computing though. The new Galaxy phones are much better than the iPhone IMO.

I agree. I love my iphone, but I've played with the new Galaxy phones and they are impressive to say the least. IMHO, they are far outpacing Apple with new features and even innovative hardware design. They're gorgeous phones, especially the new all metal HTC. I'm thinking of switching over, but I'll wait to see how iOS7 looks first.

 

[haraldo]

I never had an Iphone, but when Iphone 6 and IOS 7 is here, hmmmmmm..........
And the retina monitors on the Macbook air and pro is just something else

 

[lsiberian]

I never had an Iphone, but when Iphone 6 and IOS 7 is here, hmmmmmm..........
And the retina monitors on the Macbook air and pro is just something else

Apple has lost their edge IMO. Without Steve Jobs they are a lost company with little innovation. Sure they are cashing in right now, but how long before the next big innovation hits. I'm honestly not sure what that is. Google is doing a lot more from what I can tell than Apple. Transportation might be the next place for a big step forward.

 

[haraldo]

Apple has lost their edge IMO. Without Steve Jobs they are a lost company with little innovation. Sure they are cashing in right now, but how long before the next big innovation hits. I'm honestly not sure what that is. Google is doing a lot more from what I can tell than Apple. Transportation might be the next place for a big step forward.

When it comes to innovation.... it's really hard, perhaps impossible, to be Steve Jobs's peer, even Bill Gates admits that somehow, I don't think Apple can continue to be the same innovative, but maybe they will surf along on the big wave Jobs made for the company.... Of course Tim Cook is not Steve Jobs!

Or maybe Apple will surprise, again.... there's quite a few good engineers around there.....

But then, how can you make a quantum leap the same way they did with iPhone and MacBook Air..... very very difficult to be the same innovative over and over again......

Intel also made one of the larger contributions to MacBook Air by making a 60% smaller version of the Intel Core 2 Duo processor used in the notebook, without Intel's effort Apple would never be able to pull it off, so it's not only Apple being innovative, but also Intel.... but then Again, Intel was pushed really hard by Steve Jobs

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Apple has lost their edge IMO. Without Steve Jobs they are a lost company with little innovation. Sure they are cashing in right now, but how long before the next big innovation hits. I'm honestly not sure what that is. Google is doing a lot more from what I can tell than Apple. Transportation might be the next place for a big step forward.

I personally 100% agree. Yes, Google saw
Google were first to disrupt GPS navigation market with original Moto Droid (I loved that phone). Notifications and Widgets are some of other examples Apple was "inspired" by...

Another sign of Apple changes is upcoming redesign on IOS7
I will you be the judge of that - Inside iOS 7: Animations work with flat graphics to create sense of space

 

[Irvrobinson]

Intel also made one of the larger contributions to MacBook Air by making a 60% smaller version of the Intel Core 2 Duo processor used in the notebook, without Intel's effort Apple would never be able to pull it off, so it's not only Apple being innovative, but also Intel.... but then Again, Intel was pushed really hard by Steve Jobs

I don't know about Apple pushing Intel so hard, except maybe for Thunderbolt, but there was an interesting quip from Walter Mossberg a few days ago. The Macbook Air outsells the entire Win8 Ultrabook market, combined. Not bad for a $1000+ product that isn't normally discounted.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I don't know about Apple pushing Intel so hard, except maybe for Thunderbolt, but there was an interesting quip from Walter Mossberg a few days ago. The Macbook Air outsells the entire Win8 Ultrabook market, combined. Not bad for a $1000+ product that isn't normally discounted.

It's already been predicted by solid sources that is a matter of time for Apple to switch away on Airs from Intel CPUs to their own, ARM based processors and it might happen sooner than you think...

 

[Irvrobinson]

It's already been predicted by solid sources that is a matter of time for Apple to switch away on Airs from Intel CPUs to their own, ARM based processors and it might happen sooner than you think...

Not that I care one way or the other, but that's very unlikely. Those solid sources are probably wrong, now that the Air does 11 hours on a battery charge. Apple switched their entire ecosystem to Thunderbolt, which is Intel-exclusive technology. Wouldn't that look pretty dumb if they had plans to use their A-series processors? Anyway, what does this have to do with anything? I was simply impressed that an expensive Apple product outsells the entire Wintel Ultrabook market.

 

[haraldo]

I really don't believe Apple will change H/W architecture easily, it's all inter-related inside and if you look at macbook air everything is squeezed into a very compact board, just the change of the cpu will imply a major redesign on.... well, probably more or less all H/W, and what is this gonna gain them....

And with all the change in H/W they will have to rewrite a bunch of drivers and hardware access layers... after they spent all the energy to make it work so flawlessly....

really guys, this is not gonna happen

 

[avengineer]

I really don't believe Apple will change H/W architecture easily, it's all inter-related inside and if you look at macbook air everything is squeezed into a very compact board, just the change of the cpu will imply a major redesign on.... well, probably more or less all H/W, and what is this gonna gain them....

And with all the change in H/W they will have to rewrite a bunch of drivers and hardware access layers... after they spent all the energy to make it work so flawlessly....

really guys, this is not gonna happen

Of course, they've done it before. Switched from Motorola to Intel, and it was a remarkably smooth switch, never been anything like it done in the industry before. And it was across the entire line, not just one product. We were even covered with "universal" apps for quite a while, then a means of running old software on new the new platform.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Not that I care one way or the other, but that's very unlikely. Those solid sources are probably wrong, now that the Air does 11 hours on a battery charge. Apple switched their entire ecosystem to Thunderbolt, which is Intel-exclusive technology. Wouldn't that look pretty dumb if they had plans to use their A-series processors? Anyway, what does this have to do with anything? I was simply impressed that an expensive Apple product outsells the entire Wintel Ultrabook market.

Thunder, shmunder.. just another interface .. which apple has a habit changing quite often anyways - Plus Apple is sitting on huge wad of cash they could just pay intel to port it another platform.

Exclusive: Apple MacBook Air with AMD processor dead | SemiAccurate

while this just means that AMD is not likely to get into Apple computers soon, ARM is still a target.
And Trust me - SemiAccurate predictions and sources have very high rate of success.

More sources:
Apple could adopt ARM for laptops, but why would it? | Ars Technica
ARM-Based Macs: A Real Possibility? — Tech News and Analysis

Edit: See what avengineer said above

 

[Irvrobinson]

Thunder, shmunder.. just another interface .. which apple has a habit changing quite often anyways - Plus Apple is sitting on huge wad of cash they could just pay intel to port it another platform.

Exclusive: Apple MacBook Air with AMD processor dead | SemiAccurate

while this just means that AMD is not likely to get into Apple computers soon, ARM is still a target.
And Trust me - SemiAccurate predictions and sources have very high rate of success.

More sources:
Apple could adopt ARM for laptops, but why would it? | Ars Technica
ARM-Based Macs: A Real Possibility? — Tech News and Analysis

Edit: See what avengineer said above

What a tangent, but if you want to go down this rat-hole, whatever. I know what avengineer said, but things have changed dramatically since then. In the scenario he was referring to, Apple was confronting a situation with their PowerPC CPUs where they would be offering premium pricing with noticeably inferior performance. Intel's CPUs were so much faster than what Apple had that the apps ran as fast or faster on an emulator on Intel's CPUs as they did native. I'm sure the last thing Apple wanted to do at the time was pay Intel's premium pricing. I mean, who does Intel think they are? Apple?

Beating Intel on its own turf, laptop CPUs, in premium products probably isn't going to happen, now that Haswell has world-class power management and the integrated graphics Apple needs for even Retina displays. Intel is probably two fab process generations ahead of anyone else, so even if you think their design capabilities leave something to be desired, or that x86 architecture is somehow inherently hobbled, the industry's only production FinFETs will probably make up for any shortcomings in the Air market.

Thunderbolt is an Intel-proprietary technology. It's not an open specification like USB or PCI. Only Intel makes the chips that support it. Why would they give that up so that Apple could go to ARM easily, and lose billions of dollars in i5 and i7 CPU business? Maybe, but I'd bet against it. What would they have to lose, if they lost Apple's laptop CPU business?

iOS products are a different question, and an interesting one. I'm a doubter that Intel will get the iPhone CPU business. iPads already go for a day without recharging, and maybe I'm just a dinosaur who doesn't play the right games, but I'm not seeing an iPad performance play for Intel either. But, you never know, Intel won the Samsung tablet with Atom, and those two companies are not exactly the best of friends.

There is an argument that says that companies that spend the majority of their resources innovating on their current products are less likely to do the really new next thing. On second thought, maybe I wouldn't be so surprised if Apple decided to put the legacy products, like iPhone and iPad, on Intel, just to free up a bunch of their best resources for whatever is next. That's what a really innovative company would do, IMO.

 

[lsiberian]

What a tangent, but if you want to go down this rat-hole, whatever. I know what avengineer said, but things have changed dramatically since then. In the scenario he was referring to, Apple was confronting a situation with their PowerPC CPUs where they would be offering premium pricing with noticeably inferior performance. Intel's CPUs were so much faster than what Apple had that the apps ran as fast or faster on an emulator on Intel's CPUs as they did native. I'm sure the last thing Apple wanted to do at the time was pay Intel's premium pricing. I mean, who does Intel think they are? Apple?

Beating Intel on its own turf, laptop CPUs, in premium products probably isn't going to happen, now that Haswell has world-class power management and the integrated graphics Apple needs for even Retina displays. Intel is probably two fab process generations ahead of anyone else, so even if you think their design capabilities leave something to be desired, or that x86 architecture is somehow inherently hobbled, the industry's only production FinFETs will probably make up for any shortcomings in the Air market.

Thunderbolt is an Intel-proprietary technology. It's not an open specification like USB or PCI. Only Intel makes the chips that support it. Why would they give that up so that Apple could go to ARM easily, and lose billions of dollars in i5 and i7 CPU business? Maybe, but I'd bet against it. What would they have to lose, if they lost Apple's laptop CPU business?

iOS products are a different question, and an interesting one. I'm a doubter that Intel will get the iPhone CPU business. iPads already go for a day without recharging, and maybe I'm just a dinosaur who doesn't play the right games, but I'm not seeing an iPad performance play for Intel either. But, you never know, Intel won the Samsung tablet with Atom, and those two companies are not exactly the best of friends.

There is an argument that says that companies that spend the majority of their resources innovating on their current products are less likely to do the really new next thing. On second thought, maybe I wouldn't be so surprised if Apple decided to put the legacy products, like iPhone and iPad, on Intel, just to free up a bunch of their best resources for whatever is next. That's what a really innovative company would do, IMO.

Intel is trying to streamline their products so I'd not be surprised by an ARM move honestly.