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BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
Maybe I should actually go and see 48 fps Hobbit to know what's all the hoopla is about..
I think he does have few good points - I'm sick and tired of recent typical hollywood "blockbusters"
We need something new.....

p.s: I am too young to had a chance to see 2001 in theater, but on TV screen these 17 minutes seemed like torture

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p.p.s: In 1968 I was -9 myself :)
 
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Irvrobinson

Irvrobinson

Audioholic Spartan
I am too young to had a chance to see 2001 in theater, but on TV screen these 17 minutes seemed like torture
I'm a little young myself, being twelve when 2001:ASO was released. I did see it in a movie theater, and it was a unique experience because it was so realistic, at least compared to the Star Trek, Lost in Space, nonsense of that time. That seventeen minutes gave you a perspective of how a docking maneuver with a real space station would appear, which at the time was truly unique. The way the stewardess walked in the TWA shuttle with magnetic slippers, the effects of zero gravity, the way astronauts moved on the moon... all of these effects were different and unique in that period. In fact, it made Star Trek special effects look like the silliness they truly were. Trumbull's special effects were so far beyond what was in other movies, no less TV, at the time that they were considered game-changing. Sort of like the Jurassic Park dinosaurs.

As an aside, I actually didn't like the movie, overall. I thought many scenes were just plain silly and overdone, even at twelve years old, and I completely disbelieved Clarke's vision of how much infrastructure we'd have on the moon by 2001. At about that time, the company my father worked for was building a new skyscraper in Boston. It took several years to complete on Earth, and even at that tender age I wondered how that city on the moon would be completed in only thirty years. I guess I've always been a science fiction skeptic.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Here's a thought: just make better movies! There are TONS of great movies out there that were made LONG before resolution was a factor. These guys are pretty much trying to push technology that I don't see a real need for or benefit of. How "realistic" you make it really doesn't matter if the movie sucks.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
I love the beginning of that movie. Genius. Kubrick in general, he just uses cinematography and music so well and doesn't let vocals get in the way of what he's trying to do.

Arthur C Clark-- Excellent writer as well.

And yes, 90% of all movies today are pure garbage, not even worth watching for free on OTA TV.
 
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avengineer

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Maybe I should actually go and see 48 fps Hobbit to know what's all the hoopla is about..
I think he does have few good points - I'm sick and tired of recent typical hollywood "blockbusters"
We need something new.....
I haven't seen the film at all, much less in 48, but from what I've heard people aren't accepting the high frame rate well. Typical comments are, "It looks like video" "It looks like a soap opera" etc. Isn't it interesting how 24 fps, even though clearly not up to the illusion of smooth motion, has been so common that we've all been conditioned to see it as the most acceptable way to show narrative films, where as higher frame rate video looks like the news, football, soaps, and cheap documentaries? It's just conditioning, but very fascinating.
p.s: I am too young to had a chance to see 2001 in theater, but on TV screen these 17 minutes seemed like torture

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p.p.s: In 1968 I was -9 myself :)
You have to understand, it was a very different time. Movies in general were slower, and there had never ever been a realistic space movie. It was all models on strings, or animation before 2001.

I saw it in 70mm, first run, and it's the first time I became aware of surround. Apes all around us! Very cool. It was also the first 70mm film I'd ever seen/heard. 6 track mag sound was really WAY better than mono optical, which was the alternative then. The entire experience was very immersive by comparison to other films of the day. The ponderously slow Pan Am shuttle scenes were there to ponder space, weightlessness, total vacuum, and Strauss, all blended together. It was a head trip. And then, there's the light show...that was completely radical, and all film/organic/non-digital. Watch that bit and realize it was all slit-scan on an animation camera, shot one frame at a time! And the Ligeti music in the track....we'll, there'd been nothing like that in film either. It really had a huge impact, and was very inspirational, at least to me. I was motivated to shoot wide-screen home movies (8mm anamorphic, and yes I know 2001 was shot on 65mm, flat), and did my own little slit-scan stuff, which looked like crap, but put it all in perspective. Read the book, and the "making-of" book. The entire thing was really seminal. Sure, all the successive Wars and Treks are way more fun, but it all started with 2001.

It never held up on SD TV, and frankly you need a really big screen to get the same immersive experience now. But I'm afraid all our heads are now set to a different speed, and 2001 will never have the impact today that it had originally in 1968, in 70mm, 6 channel mag surround, in a huge theater with a curved screen.

But Trumbull is Da Man. Watch "Brainstorm" (1983), shot in 65mm, cropped down something like 50% for all "normal" scenes, then the cropping opened up to a full huge screen for the "brainstorm" effects shots. What a cool idea. Probably never again. He produced and directed that one.
 
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