Denon 3313 not able to do what I had hoped?!

[bmccord]

Hello all,

I recently jumped from an Onkyo 709 to a Denon 3313 with the plans to run a 5.1 setup in my family room, use the remaining powered channels to run a pair of patio speakers and lastly use zone 3 preouts to run my behringer amp powering a 2 ch set up in a different room. I have yet to get to zone 3 but I just hooked up my zone 2 and I can't get anything out of the patio speakers. I remember having similar issues with my Apple TV on my onkyo and I had to convert an optical out down to analog RCA to play to my patio. Is this still the issue? I just dropped $800 to not be able to play digital signal out zones 2 and 3? Man I am about to be really upset. That's the whole reason I bought this so I could use the remote app and control whatever zone I am in and play music via the built in AirPlay feature.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

 

[Grador]

Still analog only for non-main zones.

 

[j_garcia]

Very few receivers EVER have been able to do digital in secondary zones, so this does not surprise me.

 

[bmccord]

Oh now that just sucks! I guess I will hook up my old Apple TV and convert the optical out to analog like I used to on my onkyo and run it into an aux stereo input. That should allow me to do what I want because 99% of the time my zone 2 and 3 will be airplay via iPhone. Not exactly hifi but whatever.

 

[Grador]

Oh now that just sucks! I guess I will hook up my old Apple TV and convert the optical out to analog like I used to on my onkyo and run it into an aux stereo input. That should allow me to do what I want because 99% of the time my zone 2 and 3 will be airplay via iPhone. Not exactly hifi but whatever.

Airplay is done losslessly, so it will be the exact quality of whatever file you're playing.

 

[bmccord]

Ok, hooked up my Apple TV via analog RCA into the CD input and now I can AirPlay to that and pull up the analog CD signal on all zones. Crisis averted!

 

[BMXTRIX]

I just checked on this and it seems like the Yamaha A3020 is one of the only receivers on the market which can process the audio from HDMI to a second zone. While it offers more than two zones, it is only zone 2 which is allowed to have analog audio fed to it. Still, a huge step forward over what we've seen in recent years. I'm not sure what the real solution will be to this in the future as receivers no longer have enough analog inputs to support the number of HDMI sources that are available, so if you happen to have six or seven HDMI sources, you can't get those sources into the second area... sucks. In the future I really hope they get this taken care of so we actually get our 'one wire' solution with HDMI.

 

[macddmac]

I use an xda-1 to convert digital optical music from the atv and then run it up to the 3313 with rca's for output to any zone I choose.
i also run xlr's out of the Emo to my behringer A500 for 2 channel purposes.
the 3312 would do the zone 2/3 out from digital (spdif) sources iirc. When the 3313 came out with hdmi out to zone 2 they nixed the the former feature.
I heard the new 4000 will offer digital spdif source out to other zones.
Cheers, Mac

 

[Grador]

Ok, hooked up my Apple TV via analog RCA into the CD input and now I can AirPlay to that and pull up the analog CD signal on all zones. Crisis averted!

I believe that receiver has built in airplay if you can get a network cable to it. IIRC it WILL play internal network sources on zone 2/3.

 

[macddmac]

I believe that receiver has built in airplay if you can get a network cable to it. IIRC it WILL play internal network sources on zone 2/3.

Doh! I believe you're right. I still haven't gotten around to connecting my 3313 to the home network. Need to buy a power line adaptor as running an Ethernet cable to the basement would be painful
I actually did run some when building the room out, but it was pre cat 5e/6.
Cheers, Mac

 

[Grador]

Doh! I believe you're right. I still haven't gotten around to connecting my 3313 to the home network. Need to buy a power line adaptor as running an Ethernet cable to the basement would be painful
I actually did run some when building the room out, but it was pre cat 5e/6.
Cheers, Mac

If you're not already running a powerline network you could go for a wireless bridge.

 

[macddmac]

I thought about a bridge, price would be similar. Just seems that signal dropouts would be less likely with the power line option

 

[bmccord]

Hmmm, the first thing I did was connect mine to the Internet but I could not get the internal airplay to play outside. Or even find the option for that matter. When I AirPlay to my main zone via the internal system, it just hijacks whatever input is on and starts playing music. I couldn't figure out what that input was called to even pull it up on my iPhone app. That was the ideal solution. If anyone knows how this can be done, please let me know!

 

[bmccord]

Never mind. The option to pick is 'network'. You can AirPlay across all zone via the internal airplay by using the network input.

 

[Cos]

I thought about a bridge, price would be similar. Just seems that signal dropouts would be less likely with the power line option

Definitely not the case, you are better served with the bridge, unless you wireless router is 2 floors away separated by concrete and sound proofed walls There have been many complaints of inconsistent performance of power line.

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