First Impresion of Marantz SR7005 (pics). Next is Yamaha RX-A2020

bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
Hi guys,

So, I have a chance to test Marantz SR7005 vs Yamaha RX-A2020.
My old receiver is Yamaha RX-V465

When comparing both receivers, Yamaha feels (weight, back inputs, etc) like it costs twice more than Marantz. It just looks better made and it weighs 30% more.

I always complained that my old Yamaha made my speakers sound too bright and uncontrolled.

Marantz makes Sierra speakers sound much softer and not as bright and ear beaming. Listening to Chaka Khan, if on Yamaha her high pitch vocal was a bit too bright that I wanted to turn down the volume, on Marantz it's soft enough not to jump for the remote. Still hear that high pitch, BUT at least it doesn't hit my ear as bad as it did on Yamaha.

Overall I feel like Yamaha was just taking whatever sound came into it and just throwing it up at me. Marantz on the other hand is controlling it.

When I tested "Dark Knight" first 2 minutes .... again, sound was much more controlled. When they start shooting in the bank with that loud pops and echo ... Marantz controlled it very well and even though I heard more bass than I did with Yamaha, high pitch sounds were controlled very well. Still loud but not loud enough to grab the remote.

When I tested "David Foster concert" in Tru HD .... sound is much nicer. Again, warm and pleasant and much better controlled. No complaints about violin or saxophone sounding too dimmed down.

When testing "Flight of the Phoenix" ..... plane crash .... everything sounded great, BUT .... old Yamaha made that scene even louder and boomy .... I felt like Marantz toned it down a bit. Strange.

When I tested regular cable TV programming in Dolby Digital ... Marantz felt a bit too dimmed out. I felt like human voices did not pop as much as they did in my old Yamaha. Everything was just a bit too dull.

Testing MP3s 320kbps through Samsund bluray USB ..... Yamaha playing via all channels (even though this is not recommended) was not much worse than Pure Direct in Marantz. Maybe even better overall sound.

So ... movies and concerts sound great, but regular cable TV in dolby is so so.

Here are some pics of the EQ, etc that Marantz created.
As always, I had to change back to Speakers = Small and get the crossover at 100.

If I could only get the cable sound a bit more up front and get human dialog a bit louder ... that would be great. In the speaker levels, I did increase center speaker a little and in subwoofer I did lower it down just a tad,.

Changing to Dynamic EQ High did not give me a major sound difference for dialog. Turning Audyssey all together also was not a major change in sound.

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ichigo

Full Audioholic
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Yamaha has some more power reserves, which as you noticed, is reflected in its much beefier chassis.
 
G

Grador

Audioholic Field Marshall
Please help me better understand these charts. What do they mean? Sorry, not as knowledgeable as i hope i would be
Distortion % on vertical axis, power output on horozontal
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Be careful of the questions you ask.

... and that means... ? :)
Sometimes they might not be simple and you may have to read a bit to understand them.

Since you' seem to be curious enough to keep on asking us to explain everything to you, it'stime you took it upon yourself to do a little self-education on your own.

Here are the answers you are seek. There are a lot of other answers here in AV University, particularly in the sub-foders towards the bottom.
 
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3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
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Yamaha has some more power reserves, which as you noticed, is reflected in its much beefier chassis.
Based on those graphs, I would think that the Yamaha would remain more composed than the Marantz and not have the " throw the sound in your face" aspect, especially if the speakers are at their low impedance state with large phase angle.
 
bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
Sometimes they might not be simple and you may have to read a bit to understand them.

Since you' seem to be curious enough to keep on asking us to explain everything to you, it'stime you took it upon yourself to do a little self-education on your own.

Here are the answers you are seek. There are a lot of other answers here in AV University, particularly in the sub-foders towards the bottom.

thank you,
checking those out right now
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
... and that means... ? :)
It means the Yamaha can output a little more power @ 1% THD. For example, the Marantz can do ~ 140W @ 1% THD and the Yamaha can do ~ 190W @ 1% THD.

Going from 140W to 280W will give you 3dB more volume. So going from 140W to 190W will give you like 1dB more volume.

I think most speakers @ most typical real volume won't require more than 10W of power avg or 100W dynamic.

So just go with the one that sounds the best to you. 140W vs 190W is not as important as the ACTUAL SOUND in your room!
 
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bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
so, still learning my SR7005 and I like that whatever settings (Chanel level) I do for each audio setting (multi channel, 2.1, auto, pure direct), they stick and do not change. The only thing that I am able to change is the "Ch Level". My question is ..... what else can I change per audio output? Can I make changes to EQ? Cross over, etc?

For example .... music sounds awesome in STEREO 2.1 as receiver utilizes Audyssey settings thus making sound not as pitchy as when I change to Pure Direct. What I am missing in STEREO 2.1 is a bit more high and middle ... just a tad. How do I change that for STEREO 2.1 ???

For AUTO (movies in TruHD and DTS HD), I'd want to change some EQ as well... maybe a bit more mids, etc.

Any info is helpful. Thank you.
 
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