Component recommendations for first Hi-Fi system

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Angus Fretwell

Audiophyte
Hello all, sorry to make another one of these threads but after scouring the web for a few days and still being left with some questions unanswered, I decided its better I get some advice specific to my situation.

First, some background: I am deeply interested in music, and spend a lot of time listening to it. That said, I don't the music I love justice with the way I listen to it. As embarrassing as it is to admit, I listen to my collection through either a stock pair of Apple earbuds, or Logitech Z4 speakers (plugged into an iMac). While audio equipment is not of the utmost importance to me, I do realise that this equipment is very inappropriate for someone who calls themselves a music enthusiast.

Lately I've begun collecting some of my favourite albums on vinyl, and because of that I've decided I'll put together around $1500-$2000 and build myself an entry-level Hi-Fi system. (I suppose one upside of coming from my current equipment is that I will almost certainly be impressed by a system with this relatively low budget.)

The music I usually listen to include experimental/progressive rock (e.g. Henry Cow, DNA, Faust, Captain Beefheart), folk (e.g. Joanna Newsom, John Fahey, The Incredible String Band), jazz (e.g. Mingus, Coltrane, Sun Ra), pop (e.g. Kate Bush, Serge Gainsbourg, Nancy Sinatra), minimalist/avant-garde/modern classical and almost everything in-between.

The system will (for the foreseeable future) be used in my bedroom; the room is about 4.5 by 5.5 metres, with high ceilings. Initially, the only source I require is a turntable, and later on streaming from iTunes via an Airport Express or similar.

In my research, I've found three components that seem well-received and fit my budget. The Pro-Ject Debut Carbon turntable appeals to me greatly; all reviews I've read are positive, and the table, tonearm, and cartridge in one package suits my inexperience. I've gathered that using a phono preamp from the same manufacturer as the turntable is advisable, so the Pro-Ject Tube Box S seems to suit, and has been positively reviewed.

I'm overwhelmed by the number of speakers available in my budget. The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 (or 10.2) seem widely recommended, and appeal to me personally (probably just because I like the design), but I'm very open to suggestions.

As far as a preamp and power amp (or integrated amp, although I'd prefer the modularity of separate components) I'm completely in the dark. I'm gravitating toward tube amps rather than solid state (because of the reputed warmer sound), though I understand that solid state is potentially a better choice because of my budget.

So, in summary:
  • Is the Pro-Ject Tube Box S a good choice for a phono preamp, coupled with the Pro-Ject Debut Carbon?
  • Does anybody have experience with the Wharfedale Diamond 10s? What are some other suitable speakers in this price range?
  • Which preamp and power amp (or, alternatively integrated amp) would be suitable for my system? Am I better off going for tube or solid state amps?

Also, any tips for a first-time system would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance, and sorry for the poorly written post... I'm very prone to rambling :)
 
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anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
I don't own a turntable so I wont comment there. But from what I have seen you have made probably one of the best choices for a table under 500.

But as far as speakers go I would listen to as much as possible. I know this is difficult for some but worthwhile in the end. The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 looks to be a great choice. However PSB, Paradigm, b&W, Definitve Technology, all make some great speakers that might interest you, and worth a listen.

As far as amp and pre amp go I would go solid state and leave the tubes alone. The warmth is just distortion being added that colors the sound. If you your looking for a warmer sound go with a warmer speaker.

NAD, Onkyo, Cambridge Audio, Harman Kardon, are some good companies to start with for the integrated amp - amp/pre-amp. Might want to consider a stereo receiver as well.

If we could get some more info on budget that would help make a shorter list to look at.
 
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Angus Fretwell

Audiophyte
I don't own a turntable so I wont comment there. But from what I have seen you have made probably one of the best choices for a table under 500.

But as far as speakers go I would listen to as much as possible. I know this is difficult for some but worthwhile in the end. The Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 looks to be a great choice. However PSB, Paradigm, b&W, Definitve Technology, all make some great speakers that might interest you, and worth a listen.

As far as amp and pre amp go I would go solid state and leave the tubes alone. The warmth is just distortion being added that colors the sound. If you your looking for a warmer sound go with a warmer speaker.

NAD, Onkyo, Cambridge Audio, Harman Kardon, are some good companies to start with for the integrated amp - amp/pre-amp. Might want to consider a stereo receiver as well.

If we could get some more info on budget that would help make a shorter list to look at.
Thanks for the reply! Will look into speakers from the companies you suggested, and see if I can track any of them down in stores for a listen.

I think I will stick to solid state amplifiers after researching further... As far as the budget I'm quite flexible; I'd prefer to spend around $500-600 for a preamp and power amp, if possible. Willing to spend more (perhaps up to $if the difference in sound will be noticeably better.

I'd appreciate any specific suggestions of components around this price-point.
 
anamorphic96

anamorphic96

Audioholic General
Thanks for the reply! Will look into speakers from the companies you suggested, and see if I can track any of them down in stores for a listen.

I think I will stick to solid state amplifiers after researching further... As far as the budget I'm quite flexible; I'd prefer to spend around $500-600 for a preamp and power amp, if possible. Willing to spend more (perhaps up to $if the difference in sound will be noticeably better.

I'd appreciate any specific suggestions of components around this price-point.
If your room is of average size. Small to medium. Then you really need not spend more than 300-400 for the amp section. Save the money and put it towards better speakers. Something the like the Yamaha AS500, NAD C316BEE(phono-pre needed) or Onkyo A-9050 would serve you well. The NAD would need a phone pre. But this adds flexibility and you end up with the right phono section and you could upgrade if desired. If you don't mind a stereo receiver you could go with the Onkyo TX-8050 or Harman Kardon 3490. Both have plenty of power and digital inputs, and phono sections.

Stereo receiver would be my choice as it would save the most money which can go towards the speakers. It also adds a tremendous amount of flexibility with future upgrades.

Cheers. Hope this helps narrow things down.:)
 
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