Will Pay for You to Set Up my Denon 4311 Receiver. I am in NYC.

bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
I wish I had a friend who was into home theater and knew ins and outs of receivers, especially Denon 4311 or Yamaha RX-a2010.

I have these machines and I am using probably 5% of what they are capable of doing.
Frustrating.

Don't have time to read 90 page manuals, etc. Looking for a dummy approach. You set it all up, let me enjoy the sound.

Willing to pay.

Anyone in NYC area?

thanks
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
This post just cracked me up! Thanks for the good laugh.

Looking at your sig, this should be a very quick and straightforward job. Unhook from Yammy hook into Denon. Configure inputs, run Audessy. Boom!

Best of luck. Hope someone nearby can help you.
 
bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
This post just cracked me up! Thanks for the good laugh.

Looking at your sig, this should be a very quick and straightforward job. Unhook from Yammy hook into Denon. Configure inputs, run Audessy. Boom!

Best of luck. Hope someone nearby can help you.

Not that easy. I am not 100% happy with sound even after Audyssey set up.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
I'd check the crossover settings after running audyssey. From what I've seen, it's not the greatest at setting those.
 
agarwalro

agarwalro

Audioholic Ninja
Not that easy. I am not 100% happy with sound even after Audyssey set up.
I assume you have the speaker placement, subwoofer placement, room layout, room treatments, etc. look into? The gear is top notch, no reason why you can't have it set up to your satisfaction.

So, lets start from scratch. How is the room laid out and speakers/sub in context with this room?
 
mike c

mike c

Audioholic Warlord
perhaps you could try:

set all speakers 80hz
disable audyssey (but copy and use the channel levels and distances it has set)
add a db or two to the center and surrounds, add 3db-6db to the subwoofer channel

^i'm thinking you don't like the audyssey EQ sound. (i don't use the receiver EQ myself)
 
bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
so if people turn off Audyssey for which you pay an arm and a leg with Denon 4311 maybe I am better off with Receiver like Yamaha Rx-A2010 at a lower cost?

I don't think it's the receiver. It's me. I don't have time or will to spend hours studying a receiver. I am sure Denon 4311 is amazing and can do great things but I am looking for something more of a plug in play.

I think Yamaha rx-a2010 maybe the answer.
 
A

ACsGreens

Full Audioholic
I dunno....

I personally do not think that people buy the 4311 for the audssey, nor is that what brings the price way up. That receiver is pretty impressive, with or without audssey. I wonder how you know what sound you like as it seems you have never taken the time to see what your receiver can do. Not meant rudely, but you say you do not have the time to do this and that, yet the time you have spent on here could have been spent learning your receiver. It seems hard to advise and suggest if you wont even take a few minutes yourself and simply want others do to it for you. You may really enjoy it, but I doubt it. Good luck, your equipment is great, hopefully you will take some time to appreciate it.

AC
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
maybe I am better off with Receiver like Yamaha Rx-A2010 at a lower cost?

I think Yamaha rx-a2010 maybe the answer.
Now you are starting to make sense and ... uhmmm ... in the interest of helping you out I could probably help you get that stupid nasty Denon 4311 off your hands. I could probably make it out there tonight if the price was right. :)
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Now you are starting to make sense and ... uhmmm ... in the interest of helping you out I could probably help you get that stupid nasty Denon 4311 off your hands. I could probably make it out there tonight if the price was right. :)
I can't believe that I had to wait over two hours for this. You must still be sleepy from the turkey. :D
 
bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
Now you are starting to make sense and ... uhmmm ... in the interest of helping you out I could probably help you get that stupid nasty Denon 4311 off your hands. I could probably make it out there tonight if the price was right. :)
very cute :)
 
M

markw

Audioholic Overlord
I' sure there are quite a few pro shops in your area that would be happy to take you up on your offer and send someone out, but i doubt even they will guarantee "100% satisfaction".

After all, that's extremely subjective and who knows what you expected to ear. I'm not even sure you could quantify that yourself.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
so if people turn off Audyssey for which you pay an arm and a leg with Denon 4311 maybe I am better off with Receiver like Yamaha Rx-A2010 at a lower cost?

I don't think it's the receiver. It's me. I don't have time or will to spend hours studying a receiver. I am sure Denon 4311 is amazing and can do great things but I am looking for something more of a plug in play.

I think Yamaha rx-a2010 maybe the answer.
Audyssey doesn't have to cost an arm and a leg, but maybe your 4311 did. As implied, you just might not like it in the end, anyway. I do, but we're all different.

I'd perhaps try contacting BoredSysAdmin, I think he is probably up to snuff with running this kind of thing, and I think he's in your neck of the woods. Someone will need a boom/mic/stand, and it needs to be very quiet (no fridge compressor turning on, HVAC, pets, cars honking outside, whatever).

Oh, it was recently discussed in a back and forth thread, but I believe that Audyssey does not provide the xover setting to you, it is the receiver that decides the settings after it receives the measurements that Audyssey gives it. IOW, just because Audyssey sees a F3 of say 64hz, doesn't mean your xover will be set at 70 or 80, etc. Some receivers/brands may choose 70, and others will choose full range. Never having owned a Denon receiver, my guess is that yours would be like the former.
 
A

avengineer

Banned
The AVR-44311CI is capable of Audyssey Pro calibration.

Go here to find an Audyssey installer:
Find Audyssey Professional Installers in Your Area | Audyssey

Once you locate one in your area, ask him if he's been through Denon training as well. If so, he's your man.

An Audyssey installer has the Pro kit, but has also been through installer training. A Denon-trained installer has also spend some time in training. The two together will get you the best possible result. During the calibration procedure, the installer can switch Audyssey on and off, and make some more subjective changes for you to audition.

There's a bit more to it than just the typical consumer-mic calibration the thing will walk you through. The calibrated pro mic and preamp for one, and the Pro software for two, and the guy himself for three. All things the usual AVR owner won't have.

Sorry, I'm not in NY, or I'd just trot over...
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
PM me I can try to help for free. I'm In Brooklyn.
 
J

jostenmeat

Audioholic Spartan
The AVR-44311CI is capable of Audyssey Pro calibration.

Go here to find an Audyssey installer:
Find Audyssey Professional Installers in Your Area | Audyssey

Once you locate one in your area, ask him if he's been through Denon training as well. If so, he's your man.

An Audyssey installer has the Pro kit, but has also been through installer training. A Denon-trained installer has also spend some time in training. The two together will get you the best possible result. During the calibration procedure, the installer can switch Audyssey on and off, and make some more subjective changes for you to audition.

There's a bit more to it than just the typical consumer-mic calibration the thing will walk you through. The calibrated pro mic and preamp for one, and the Pro software for two, and the guy himself for three. All things the usual AVR owner won't have.

Sorry, I'm not in NY, or I'd just trot over...
I concur with this post, this is good stuff. It becomes a judgment call for the OP.

If it's really about the *time spent*, or having the people over at your place, etc, and not so much about the money, the above will definitely be your best chance and highest quality. The downside is the money, it won't be cheap. But know that just to own the kit won't be cheap.

If you want to test the waters, depending on the sum that is agreed upon just to run "vanilla XT with 8 positions", you could always run the pro setup later on (and this has up to 32 positions; 32 vs 8 pictures gives Audyssey that many more snapshots to know what is going on in the room). The other big benefit for the stingiest of audiophiles is that you can remove the notch filter in the midrange that apparently is defaulted with consumer level Audyssey. However, I've been told by the AVS hardcores that many people leave this be after they realize that they prefer the notch after experimentation; that their speakers aren't the very darned best in the world after all. So it goes.
 
A

avengineer

Banned
If you want to test the waters, depending on the sum that is agreed upon just to run "vanilla XT with 8 positions", you could always run the pro setup later on (and this has up to 32 positions; 32 vs 8 pictures gives Audyssey that many more snapshots to know what is going on in the room).
A good Pro calibrator knows a few tricks on where to place the measurement mic. it's not just about how many positions, it's also what positions. Some non-pros measure with the mic laying on the seat, for example. So their rooms are calibrated if they listen with their butts. Not saying anyone here would do that, but it's been done.

The other big benefit for the stingiest of audiophiles is that you can remove the notch filter in the midrange that apparently is defaulted with consumer level Audyssey. However, I've been told by the AVS hardcores that many people leave this be after they realize that they prefer the notch after experimentation; that their speakers aren't the very darned best in the world after all. So it goes.
The notch wasn't put there by accident, or because they thought it would make things worse. There was some engineering behind it. The instances where it's better off are in the minority.
 
U

unemployed

Enthusiast
You can probably find a Yamaha RX-A2010 via amazon or World Wide Stereo online in the $1000 - 1100 range.
 
bizmord

bizmord

Full Audioholic
You can probably find a Yamaha RX-A2010 via amazon or World Wide Stereo online in the $1000 - 1100 range.
Nah, not a good price.
I've seen them on Ebay for $850 and even $450 for a lightly dented unit but in 100% working order.
 

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