Owning Multiple Speakers Is Nice

AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I hear you my man, already ordered the 1500, $335 to my house, never used pro gear so if I like the sound I will get more. Get the plastic things out with small screw driver, defeat the DSP function and set gain to 75-80 and adjust speakers levels accordingly. Did I get it right? ;)
Thanks A guy.......Jeff
Right.

The gain at 80% should be close. I ended up just setting the XLS gain to 100% and just use the AVR speaker channel levels to match all the channels.

You might end up the same. :D
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Right.

The gain at 80% should be close. I ended up just setting the XLS gain to 100% and just use the AVR speaker channel levels to match all the channels.

You might end up the same. :D
Cracks me up, why the change in philosophy? Did it have anything to do with those parasound manuals :D

Just giving you a hard time :D I guess that means no hiss from the pro amps at 100%

I think it should be the same result either way, but I would think the digital readings on the AVR would be easier to fine tune than the analog knobs?
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I would think the digital readings on the AVR would be easier to fine tune than the analog knobs?
Exactly! :D

And based on my experience, setting the gain to 100% is about the equivalent to the usual 28dB gain on most amps, including the Parasound. :D
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

Audioholic Warlord
Exactly! :D

And based on my experience, setting the gain to 100% is about the equivalent to the usual 28dB gain on most amps, including the Parasound. :D
I knew it was those parasound manauls :D

You ever mess with an oscilloscope? Those have the coarse-adjustment on the outside of the knob, and the fine-adjustment on a smaller center coaxial knob. Amp gains could do the same for the OCD types.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
I knew it was those parasound manauls :D

You ever mess with an oscilloscope? Those have the coarse-adjustment on the outside of the knob, and the fine-adjustment on a smaller center coaxial knob. Amp gains could do the same for the OCD types.
Well, like they say, increasing the gain to 100% is like removing the attenuation from the amp loop, which is another step in making the signal path more pure. :D

I never heard of an oscilloscope. :D
 
ahblaza

ahblaza

Audioholic Field Marshall
Right.

The gain at 80% should be close. I ended up just setting the XLS gain to 100% and just use the AVR speaker channel levels to match all the channels.

You might end up the same. :D
How did I know you would end up saying that :D
 
ahblaza

ahblaza

Audioholic Field Marshall
Yeah, adjusting two components is more difficult than just one. :D
That does make it easier, about 28dB gain should be ideal :)
Guitar Center has $100 off on the XLS2000 with Code Save100 :eek:
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Pretty good for those so inclined to use it :D

Thanks A for all your insight and amp and speaker expertise :)
 
Tomorrow

Tomorrow

Audioholic Ninja
If the speakers don't sound any better and measure any better and look any better, why pay more? :D
ADTG, I think you're getting a lot of well due appreciation here. Maybe a bit of jealousy, too. :)

One thing I think you have absolutely the right idea on is the sound plus measurement thought. Typically, we should only use measurements to filter speaker selection, I agree. A piano can play from mid-bass range to tweeter range. Now, we can assume that both your Phils and your Infinity's play relatively flat throughout that piano range. But if one of them sounds like a piano and one of them sounds like a trumpet (or a Yak passing grass gas), guess which one we'll like. A lot of people addicted to measurements tend to forget that, I think.

Accurate reproduction is still an art. (And if you listen to Claude Debussy, well, he'll tell you that the joy of music is the "space in between the notes". Hmmm, how do we reproduce space between the notes? ...one reason I like ribbon tweets, btw.)

And for certain price and aesthetics, too, play more of a role in our selections than we all care to admit...especially the looks part. :cool:

Congrats on your great speaker collection. Count me among the envious!

Try some Sibelius symphonies on those Phils! ;)
 
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