Speakers and Receiver, some doubts.

[pkeynote]

I want to build a simple system at home to listen to music, i don't need more than 2 Speakers so Stereo is perfect. The Speakers i've chose are the Bowers & Wilkins 685:
(Can't post Links)

And after reading a lot of info about amplifiers and receivers (I don't need the video capabilities) I've chosen this one:
Yamaha R-S700

My questions are: The Yamaha inputs are analog, and I want to connect my TV sporadicly to it for movies and VideoGames, but also listen from music of an iPod and Computer in high quality. ¿Are the Yamaha inputs enough for what i want to do?

As the Speakers support, and also the Amplifier, do you recommend doing Bi-Wiring?
And what cables should i choose to connect the speakers (With or without Bi-Wiring) (I plan on spending about 75€ on them)

Thanks a lot!

 

[macddmac]

Hi and welcome to the forum.
With your speaker selection, and the fact that you want to pipe digital sources through it, I would not recommend a a stereo receiver.
Adding to that, it's a strong possibility that you will want or need a powered subwoofer at some point which leads me to recommend an AVR that has both the digital inputs (and on board dacs) to convert the signals. And bass management to tailor the bass freqs going to the sub and free up power to drive your B&W 's in their best FR.
For the money you were looking at spending on the R S 700 you could get a decent HTR like the RX-V671 or a Denon AVR-1912 (my choice) and not have to worry about adding $$ components to make your stereo reciever work as you intend .
Just my 2 cents..
Cheers,Mac

 

[pkeynote]

Hi and welcome to the forum.
With your speaker selection, and the fact that you want to pipe digital sources through it, I would not recommend a a stereo receiver.
Adding to that, it's a strong possibility that you will want or need a powered subwoofer at some point which leads me to recommend an AVR that has both the digital inputs (and on board dacs) to convert the signals. And bass management to tailor the bass freqs going to the sub and free up power to drive your B&W 's in their best FR.
For the money you were looking at spending on the R S 700 you could get a decent HTR like the RX-V671 or a Denon AVR-1912 (my choice) and not have to worry about adding $$ components to make your stereo reciever work as you intend .
Just my 2 cents..
Cheers,Mac

Thanks for the Welcome , so then ill rather choose a digital one...

I chose the Yamaha Stereo because after reading reviews, they said this provides the best Quality for music (it only amplifies sound), as digitals ones are not centered on music but Video and Cinema. Ill take a log at the Denon.

Thanks

 

[markw]

You can get some pretty good sound from those analog inputs. docks are available for most "Ipod/MP3" type devices to send a line level signal to those analog aux inputs.

As for games and video, unless you want multi-channel sound, I think you're wise to concentrate on a very good two channel unit like this.

Since they don't waste any money on throwing in stuff that is needed for multi-channel processing, like three or four more amp channels and a processor, you get more two channel "bang for the buck". These goodies don't add to the basic sound but rather addto the cost.

If two units, stereo and multi-channel, are the same price, which do you think will deliver better sonic performance? To get comprable performance in a multi-channel unit, you'll have to seriously up your budget.

Of course, if you see multi-channel in your future for this system, you might want to rethink your goals here.

 

[pkeynote]

You can get some pretty good sound from those analog inputs. docks are available for most "Ipod/MP3" type devices to send a line level signal to those analog aux inputs.

As for games and video, unless you want multi-channel sound, I think you're wise to concentrate on a very good two channel unit like this.

Since they don't waste any money on throwing in stuff that is needed for multi-channel processing, like three or four more amp channels and a processor, you get more two channel "bang for the buck". These goodies don't add to the basic sound but rather addto the cost.

If two units, stereo and multi-channel, are the same price, which do you think will deliver better sonic performance? To get comprable performance in a multi-channel unit, you'll have to seriously up your budget.

Of course, if you see multi-channel in your future for this system, you might want to rethink your goals here.

This is exactly what I want, a Stereo that delivers true good sound, as Im not going to use a lot of the A/V Receiver and not plan on upgrading it, my only question was about the Imput, so i will have to connect my iPod/Mac Thought composite audio to mini jack?

 

[markw]

This is exactly what I want, a Stereo that delivers true good sound, as Im not going to use a lot of the A/V Receiver and not plan on upgrading it, my only question was about the Imput, so i will have to connect my iPod/Mac Thought composite audio to mini jack?

Not composite audio, but simply analog stereo audio. Composite is a video term.

Yes. That's what I do and the sound does NOT suck. Like I said, there are docks available that will use the Ipod's DAC but will bypass the Ipod's internal amp.

If you're feeling really froggy, there are standalone DAC's designed purely for two-channel audio in all price ranges if you really don't want to use analog, but you should really try it before condemning it.

 

[pkeynote]

Not composite audio, but simply analog stereo audio. Composite is a video term.

Yes. That's what I do and the sound does NOT suck. Like I said, there are docks available that will use the Ipod's DAC but will bypass the Ipod's internal amp.

If you're feeling really froggy, there are standalone DAC's designed purely for two-channel audio in all price ranges if you really don't want to use analog, but you should really try it before condemning it.

I do want to use analog, as it does not modifies signal as much as Digital Receivers, and as the Yamaha does a great job amplifying i only wanted to be sure i was choosing the correct equipment for me and that i could plug in what i wanted.

Thank you for your help, another question I have is about cables, what do you recommend me to plug the B&W to de Amplifier?

 

[macddmac]

Any Good quality 12 or 14 gage stranded copper wire will do.. Add banana plugs if you wish for ease of installation do not invest a lot of$ in this as the return is not there.
Once again, my opinion

 

[anamorphic96]

I want to build a simple system at home to listen to music, i don't need more than 2 Speakers so Stereo is perfect. The Speakers i've chose are the Bowers & Wilkins 685:
(Can't post Links)

And after reading a lot of info about amplifiers and receivers (I don't need the video capabilities) I've chosen this one:
Yamaha R-S700

My questions are: The Yamaha inputs are analog, and I want to connect my TV sporadicly to it for movies and VideoGames, but also listen from music of an iPod and Computer in high quality. ¿Are the Yamaha inputs enough for what i want to do?

As the Speakers support, and also the Amplifier, do you recommend doing Bi-Wiring?
And what cables should i choose to connect the speakers (With or without Bi-Wiring) (I plan on spending about 75€ on them)

Thanks a lot!

You have made some great choices in equipment. The B&W's are a great speaker and will work real well with the 685's. However what hasn't been mentioned is there are much cheaper options in receivers that will also give you digital inputs as well as wireless streaming, networking, and rock solid amplification. Without all the surround sound features.

Take a look at the Harman Kardon 3490 and Onkyo TX-8050. They can both be typically found for less than 300 from authorized dealers. There is also a glowing review of the Harman Kardon hear at Audioholics. Hope this helps.

 

[slipperybidness]

I want to build a simple system at home to listen to music, i don't need more than 2 Speakers so Stereo is perfect. The Speakers i've chose are the Bowers & Wilkins 685:
(Can't post Links)

And after reading a lot of info about amplifiers and receivers (I don't need the video capabilities) I've chosen this one:
Yamaha R-S700

My questions are: The Yamaha inputs are analog, and I want to connect my TV sporadicly to it for movies and VideoGames, but also listen from music of an iPod and Computer in high quality. ¿Are the Yamaha inputs enough for what i want to do?

As the Speakers support, and also the Amplifier, do you recommend doing Bi-Wiring?
And what cables should i choose to connect the speakers (With or without Bi-Wiring) (I plan on spending about 75€ on them)

Thanks a lot!

You could get the yammy and add a standalone DAC for the digital sources. Adds a couple hundred bucks though:
XDA-1 Balanced DAC | Emotiva Audio | High-end audio components for audiophiles and videophiles, spanning 2-channel music systems, as well as 5.1 and 7.1 home theaters. Products include multichannel amplifiers, stereo amplifiers, and monoblock amplifi

 

[pkeynote]

You have made some great choices in equipment. The B&W's are a great speaker and will work real well with the 685's. However what hasn't been mentioned is there are much cheaper options in receivers that will also give you digital inputs as well as wireless streaming, networking, and rock solid amplification. Without all the surround sound features.

Take a look at the Harman Kardon 3490 and Onkyo TX-8050. They can both be typically found for less than 300 from authorized dealers. There is also a glowing review of the Harman Kardon hear at Audioholics. Hope this helps.

Thanks but about prices I preffer the Yamaha, as the HK 3490 sells for more than 350€ and the Onkyo is about 375€ while the Yamaha is only 325€, the cheapest.

 

[pkeynote]

You could get the yammy and add a standalone DAC for the digital sources. Adds a couple hundred bucks though:
XDA-1 Balanced DAC | Emotiva Audio | High-end audio components for audiophiles and videophiles, spanning 2-channel music systems, as well as 5.1 and 7.1 home theaters. Products include multichannel amplifiers, stereo amplifiers, and monoblock amplifi

This product is Impossible to buy in my country because they don't have retailers here, could you recommend me another one?
Otherwise i will use Mini-Jack to analog.

 

[slipperybidness]

This product is Impossible to buy in my country because they don't have retailers here, could you recommend me another one?
Otherwise i will use Mini-Jack to analog.

What country is that? FYI, they don't have retailers anywhere as they are an internet direct company. If you called and talked to them then they might ship it, but you would have to pay for shipping most likely

 

[pkeynote]

What country is that? FYI, they don't have retailers anywhere as they are an internet direct company. If you called and talked to them then they might ship it, but you would have to pay for shipping most likely

Spain, and shipping is 80€ or more, so it ends up being really expensive.