Geez talk about wrong place, wrong time

darien87

darien87

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Deputies shoot, kill man after knocking on wrong door | Watch the video - Yahoo! News

Florida police shoot and kill a man in his own home, at the WRONG ADDRESS!!!


FLORIDA – According to local media in the area, an innocent man is dead after Sheriff’s deputies in Lake County, Florida got the wrong address in pursuit of a murder suspect, barged into a man’s house at 1:30am, and shot him in his own house even though they did not announce they were the police.

TV station WESH reported today that Andrew Lee Scott, age 26, was killed when sheriff’s deputies mistakenly went to his house late at night, mistakenly thinking that they had the address of a murder suspect instead. The murder suspect had parked his motorcycle in a parking space in a parking lot front of Scott’s apartment building and although deputies did not see him go in that particular unit, they assumed that Scott’s apartment was the suspect’s home.

When deputies entered the home, they said that Scott had a gun held in his hands, possibly for his own defense to ward off an unannounced intruder at such a late hour. Scott did not shoot at the deputies, but they shot and killed him as they entered the home.

Witnesses told the TV station that deputies fire four times.

“The occupant of that apartment was pointing a gun at deputies, and that’s when we opened fire and killed him,” Lt. John Herrell of the department in an interview with the TV station.

Officials confirmed with the TV station that they did not identify themselves before entering the home. Such tactics are often used where suspects are considered armed and dangerous or if there is a possibility that suspects might try to destroy evidence.

Despite the time of night they entered his home, the fact that Scott did not fire his weapon, and the fact that they got the wrong address, the Sheriff’s department said they believed that Scott’s death was clearly his own fault, and the deputies were not to blame.

“The bottom line is you point a gun at a deputy or police officer, you’re going to get shot,” said Lt. Herrell in a different video interview that appeared nationally on Yahoo News.

I think the cops are absolutely in the wrong on this one.
 
its phillip

its phillip

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B&E and murder.

Probably just get a slap on the wrist if anything, which is sickening.

How hard is it to verify a freaking address?
 
fuzz092888

fuzz092888

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I had something happen to me less than a week ago. Good thing I wasn't home or I'd be in the same position as this guy because after two guys broke into our house back in high school and shot my Dad, we are always packing. After that incident it's shoot first talk later for intruders.

Anyways, I wasn't home, but somebody called into 911 and said something along the lines of some woman was getting the hell beat out of her at 293 my road. Too bad I live at 289. Due to some a$$backwards logic or geography skills the cops ended up at my place, entered a seemingly empty and locked house without permission or warrant to my knowledge, and searched the place. Touched all my firearms that weren't locked away and from my neighbors recounting, spent well over an hour inside my house (which you could thoroughly search in less than 5 minutes). It's an apartment with a living room, kitchen, bedroom, bathroom, and porch. Needless to say there was something fishy about the whole ordeal.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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“The bottom line is you point a gun at a deputy or police officer, you’re going to get shot,” said Lt. Herrell in a different video interview that appeared nationally on Yahoo News.
Some times cops get shot too.
 
Soccerkid830

Soccerkid830

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Nowadays you can't even shoot the intruder in your house unless you were under fear for your life. Or else you better hope the intruder either died or has no other family that are looking for quick money. You'll get sued.

Like that one guy that broke into someone's house and broke his leg. He sued the homeowner for the hospital fees and whatnot. He was there to ROB the place and ended up suing the guy he was robbing! :eek:

Things don't make sense sometimes.


Also on a slightly similar note,
A few years back near my house some kids were having a party, all in their mid 20's or so. One of the kids had just recently bought a brand new paintball gun and was showing it off. While at the same time, the police had been called to investigate a noise complaint coming from the house having too loud of music. The police were walking around outside the back of the house, never to come to the front door and explain things, and the kid inside with the paintball gun apparently just happened to turn the gun towards the window, not seeing anybody was out there because it was dark outside. And the police thought he was turning to shoot with a real gun. A few non-paintball gun shots later and the kid was dead on scene.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Though they may have feared for their lives because the man was "armed" (so they claim), the man was also justified in protecting his own life because they did not identify themselves. Whether they identified themselves or not, it still sounds like a wrongful death to me since they had the wrong house. Had he shot and injured or killed one of the cops, the story would have been a LOT different I am sure, and they would still have blamed the guy.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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I truly believe that even though I don't own a firearm, if that would have been my house and the same thing would have happened I would have been found dead with gun in hand ;)

Put another way: In my almost 40 years on this planet I've never met a cop that has done me a bit of good.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Nowadays you can't even shoot the intruder in your house unless you were under fear for your life. Or else you better hope the intruder either died or has no other family that are looking for quick money. You'll get sued.
That hasn't changed. The ONLY time you can shoot someone justifiably is if you are defending your own life or another person's life. You cannot defend property or harm someone who is not an "immediate threat". Someone in my house who isn't supposed to be there I consider an immediate threat.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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That hasn't changed. The ONLY time you can shoot someone justifiably is if you are defending your own life or another person's life. You cannot defend property or harm someone who is not an "immediate threat". Someone in my house who isn't supposed to be there I consider an immediate threat.
Yep, I tend not to hand out a questionnaire to intruders.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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I truly believe that even though I don't own a firearm, if that would have been my house and the same thing would have happened I would have been found dead with gun in hand ;)
That's what I was suggesting too :) Just a wild guess, but my money says he didn't own any guns.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

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He may not have, but I'm sure the police won't be looking into if he owned any guns. The cops should learn to identify themselves before entering, but even more importantly, to have the right address in the first place.
 
darien87

darien87

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I love how they searched the place and found drug paraphenalia. Like that makes killing him justified.

I too treat cops with distrust as a general rule. When I was in college I was dropping my girlfriend off at her house after a date. We were sitting in my car talking and kissing good night. A cop drives by slowly and then waited at the end of the street. When I left to go home he pulls me over and asks me, "What were you doing sitting in front of that house?" :rolleyes:
 
AverageJoe

AverageJoe

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“The bottom line is you point a gun at a deputy or police officer, you’re going to get shot,” said Lt. Herrell in a different video interview that appeared nationally on Yahoo News.

By that logic, if they mistakenly blunder onto a shooting range, they kill everyone there?

It's a tough job, and I have a lot of respect for the profession (but not necessarily everyone practicing it). It sounds like in this case, the only one who exercised any restraint (in not firing) is the dead one. I could be wrong, but don't the front line door-bashers in these cases wear some pretty fair protection? I'm sure it's not 100% effective, but at least good enough to take a chance and say, "put the gun down"? Not that I'd have the guts to take that chance, though.
 

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