Are these Martin Logan's any good

[ematthews]

MartinLogan Motion 12

Are these any good? Any thoughts on these?
AT 249 each that seems like a good deal for a second set of speakers to play around with..

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I think the higher end more expensive ML are good.

Don't know about lower end models. For cheaper speakers, I would stick to Infinity.

 

[ematthews]

Infinity...Let me check them out. How do the Boston Acoustics compare to the Infinity since we are talking cheap.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Infinity...Let me check them out. How do the Boston Acoustics compare to the Infinity since we are talking cheap.

When they go on sale like every other month or so, I think the infinity are extremely hard to beat for $85 each on the P162 or $199 each on P362.

The P362 has been measured by Stereophile. Believe this. The P362 have better on-axis and off-axis frequency response than the $25,000 B&W 800 Diamond and many many speakers. No one is claiming they sound better, of course.

No other "cheap" speakers on the planet has this honorable distinction.

I'm disappointed B&W doesn't care to do anything about that fact. But then again, they couldn't care less what I think.

The P362 also measures better than the Martin Logan $3000 speakers.

The P162 has been measured by Soundstage NRC.

I don't know how Boston Acoustics measure.

NHT, EMP, Pioneer also measure very well on frequency response.

 

[ematthews]

Thanks.
Is it worth going to the 363 over the 252 Infinity's?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

check deals forum for P363 at fry's for 144/each shipped

 

[ematthews]

check deals forum for P363 at fry's for 144/each shipped

Holy cow that's cheap

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Wow. Can't believe that price ($144 each shipped)!

FRYS.com*|*INFINITY

No other $300/pr speakers on the planet will sound as good.

 

[ematthews]

How can they sell them so cheap? I mean 124 per speaker when everyone else has them for 329 or so?????? I can't understand it.....So I bought a pair.
What do I have to lose at that price...

 

[gmichael]

How can they sell them so cheap? I mean 124 per speaker when everyone else has them for 329 or so?????? I can't understand it.....So I bought a pair.
What do I have to lose at that price...

Not much. I think you'll enjoy them.

 

[ematthews]

Any clue on how they sell them so cheap? Are the maybe a factory refurb?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

How can they sell them so cheap? I mean 124 per speaker when everyone else has them for 329 or so?????? I can't understand it.....So I bought a pair.
What do I have to lose at that price...

I have a pair too. From Fry's couple yrs ago. Except I paid $150 + shipping for each. Not fair.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Any clue on how they sell them so cheap? Are the maybe a factory refurb?

Don't think so. Not the first time Fry's have those for sale. I think I've even heard people say $100 each + shipping. Sale.

 

[ematthews]

Well... If they sound better than my Polk LSi15. Then it's a big WIN. If they don't then my garage system will thank me.... Or maybe I can take my RF82 Klipsch out of the HT system. Not sure.. But it will be fun trying these out..Just can't believe that I got floor speakers under 275 shipped

 

[Grador]

That's a price so tempting I'm considering getting a pair even though I have no clue what I'd do with them Also, I'm not saying these are refurb, but it wouldn't be the first time fry's has sold untagged referb items...

 

[runswithscisors]

MartinLogan Motion 12

Are these any good? Any thoughts on these?
AT 249 each that seems like a good deal for a second set of speakers to play around with..

I figured I'd chime in on the OP since nobody really answered the question. I auditioned the Motion 12s. IMHO, they sound OK at best, and the center that pairs with them is terrible. To me it sounds like a voice in a box. You end up listening to speakers, not movies.


Here is what I ended up finding so far, based on my listening preferences, with HT material.

Motion 12 VS Martin Logan ESL Chose the ESL

ESL vs B&W 683, chose 683. (Will note ESL sounded better on axis, but out of the sweet spot was terrible)

683 VS Klipsch RF 82-II, chose RF 82

Beyond this things got out of my price range. I have three ID speakers coming to me, I'll audition them side by side to the RF 82-IIs.

Also please note, I couldn't find the Motion 12s on Martin Logan's own website.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I figured I'd chime in on the OP since nobody really answered the question. I auditioned the Motion 12s. IMHO, they sound OK at best, and the center that pairs with them is terrible. To me it sounds like a voice in a box. You end up listening to speakers, not movies.

Motion 12 VS Martin Logan ESL Chose the ESL

ESL vs B&W 683, chose 683. (Will note ESL sounded better on axis, but out of the sweet spot was terrible)

683 VS Klipsch RF 82-II, chose RF 82

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with you there.

 

[Adam]

IMHO, they sound OK at best, and the center that pairs with them is terrible. To me it sounds like a voice in a box.

Hi, run. Was it the Motion 8 that you heard, or maybe the Motion C? I have the Motion 8 and think that it's pretty decent (I wrote a review here). Of course, that doesn't mean that it is...just maybe that I luckily can't tell it's bad.

 

[runswithscisors]

No, it was the Motion 12. The towers were OK, but the whole package really lacked, especially the center speaker. To me with HT content they weren't "convincing". I haven't heard the Motion 8s and can't comment on them.

 

[Adam]

No, it was the Motion 12. The towers were OK, but the whole package really lacked, especially the center speaker. To me with HT content they weren't "convincing". I haven't heard the Motion 8s and can't comment on them.

Thanks. I was wondering which center speaker you didn't like. They have three centers in the Motion line (Motion C, Motion 8, and Motion 6).