Help with my new Rythmik FV12

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avdoubleu

Audioholic Intern
Ill be honest with whoever helps I'm lost on the proper way to set this up. It came with a small instruction sheet and I've read everything on Rythmik's website and I'm still confused.

Primarily the Delay/phase control and bass extension freq and damping.

Anyone wanna take me under their wing???


Thanks a mill.
 
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gotchaforce

Junior Audioholic
How big is the room? leave extension at 20 and have damping at medium.

Leave delay alone as well, the receiver calibration should measure the subwoofer distance and take out the need to adjust delay.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
I can understand your confusion :) Rythmik offers some more control settings that aren't found on a lot of other subs. The FV12 isn't too bad though, here's the run down:

The extension frequency is just selecting where the low end filter is going to kick in. The damping setting is selecting how quickly that filter is going to slope off the bass.

If you want the deepest extension possible, you set the sub to 14Hz and low damping. This tells the sub not to start filtering the bass until 14Hz and slope it off as gradually as possible. Start with this setting.

Depending on your room, you might get a lot of "room gain" in the really deep bass. Or you might need as much headroom as you can get at 20-25Hz and not care about anything lower than that. That's where the other options come in. It's a similar idea. At the 20Hz setting, the sub activates a filter starting at 20Hz. The damping setting adjusts how steep the filter will be. So with a 20Hz setting and the "high" damping setting, you basically get a "brick wall" at 20Hz. The sub really won't play anything below 20Hz with such a setup - the slope of the filter will be very steep. But this gets you a little more headroom and output at 20Hz since the sub isn't even trying to ever play anything lower.

If you get a lot of that really low "room gain", you can use these settings to tame that. You might find that your room boosts everything starting at about 30Hz on down. In such a case, you might choose the 28Hz extension setting and then adjust the damping to get the right sort of slope to counteract your "room gain" and get a nice, flat frequency response again :) To do that sort of thing right, you really need to be able to measure. You can get the Room EQ Wizard (REW) software for free and simply plug an SPL meter into your computer to get some half-decent measurements. They won't be super accurate with just an SPL meter, but it's a good enough rough idea to at least get you in the ballpark. If you want something more accurate, you'll need a better microphone. For around $150, you can pick up the Dayton EMM-6 microphone and the Art Dual Pre USB that you'll need to connect that mic to your computer's USB port. It's about the least expensive measurement setup, but it gives pretty darn accurate readings. You can also get a full measurement package from Dayton for about $300 that's got a USB mic and some really easy to use software if you're more comfortable with an "all-in-one" measurement solution :)

As for the phase and cross-over, leave those in their default "zero degree" phase and 12dB/octave-slash-External settings. Your receiver will handle those settings, so you don't need to adjust them on the sub itself.

Hope that helps!
 
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Nuance AH

Audioholic General
FirstReflection,

I just want to say thanks for your informative posts on this forum, especially regarding subwoofers. Your info is always rock solid and well thought out; great explanations! If there's anything I ever want to say and you've already posted before me, I usually don't even have to post because you cover all the bases. Well done, sir. Well done!
 
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gotchaforce

Junior Audioholic
I'll soon have a dummies guide on how to setup REW.. like hopefully tomorrow-soon.
 
ratso

ratso

Full Audioholic
if you can get the stupid java applet to run on your computer (i needed to refresh it a bunch of times before it ran) this helped me a lot. it basically tells you what the phase should be set
to.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/subtuner2.html

btw, although i have never done it the avs thread has a lot of reports of people just calling brian at rythmik and he will walk you through setup.
 
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FirstReflection

AV Rant Co-Host
if you can get the stupid java applet to run on your computer (i needed to refresh it a bunch of times before it ran) this helped me a lot. it basically tells you what the phase should be set
to.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/subtuner2.html

btw, although i have never done it the avs thread has a lot of reports of people just calling brian at rythmik and he will walk you through setup.
Very true! The staff over at Rythmik is very much willing to help with your setup. They really know their stuff too. Not just some outsourced tech support with a checklist ;)
 
ratso

ratso

Full Audioholic
which isn't to say firstreflection didn't answer a lot. i am going to go home tonight and actually play around with some of the things he mentioned, time to drag out the omnimic. my setup sounds good but who knows? maybe can dial it in more. :cool:
 
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Nuance AH

Audioholic General
which isn't to say firstreflection didn't answer a lot. i am going to go home tonight and actually play around with some of the things he mentioned, time to drag out the omnimic. my setup sounds good but who knows? maybe can dial it in more. :cool:
If nothing else it gives you an excuse to play with your "audio toys;" that's what my wife calls them. :D

I'll soon have a dummies guide on how to setup REW.. like hopefully tomorrow-soon.
Does it differ from the one on HT Shack? Although, maybe they haven't updated it since 5 was released. Regardless, thanks for putting one together.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
btw, although i have never done it the avs thread has a lot of reports of people just calling brian at rythmik and he will walk you through setup.
That's what I did. I actually called Brian quite a few times from questions about his subs before I bought one, to thoughts on cabinet construction to set up after I got the thing. He was very helpful.
 

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