Looking for some budget Loudspeakers advice for sports bar

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redcore

Audiophyte
hi fellows
my father in law has a bar-sports bar that is 42x 25.we are changing the sound setup.He use to have a amp jukebox for 3 zone.He had 2 zone in the middle of the bar where people seat with 4 speakers(unknow dj speakers) hanging from the ceiling(they are hide behind some garden treillis...).He had 2 other bookshelf speakers bose that came with the jukebox in a corner.The bose bookshelf sounded better that the crappy djs speakers.After a lot of arguing with me he doesnt want to spend more than 1000$ for some speakers and a new av receiver....he can keep the jukebox and the bose speakers and he says that 2 loudspeakers would be enough to replace the 4 speakers.....he rents some ufc,have some hockey and football on and has like 10 partys a year.Do you guys have any advice for the speakers(maybe 2 loud and 2 bookshelf to put elsewhere and could a 100w receiver could do the job...he wants it loud with good sound but for a 1000$ I am not sure it is enough
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
my father in law has a bar-sports bar that is 42x 25.we are changing the sound setup.
First of all that's huge. You will need drivers with high power handling and sensitivty. No they don't need to be "crappy DJ speakers", but small speakers just won't cut.

.After a lot of arguing with me he doesnt want to spend more than 1000$ for some speakers and a new av receiver....he can keep the jukebox and the bose speakers and he says that 2 loudspeakers would be enough to replace the 4 speakers.....he rents some ufc,have some hockey and football on and has like 10 partys a year.
This frugal-ness is why I hate going to sports bars to watch the game. it's actually worse than watching it at home!

The parties are the real killer, because the average SPLs get turned way up.

Do you guys have any advice for the speakers(maybe 2 loud and 2 bookshelf to put elsewhere
It's tough. You want good sound quality, and you want loud, and you don't want to spend much. I think you've gotta convince him that one of those has to go. Trading away loud simply isn't an option - it's huge and it's a bar with occasional parties. So it's between sound quality (settle for DJ speakers, but find the best you can) or cost (probably want 2.5X that budget).

and could a 100w receiver could do the job...
Absolutely NOT. Receivers are made to last a few hours at moderate levels (IE 1 to 5W) with 100w bursts. On all day, with high SPLs at long distances, you need to be looking at professional gear with heavy heatsinking. Things designed for longetivity / commercial establishments.

he wants it loud with good sound but for a 1000$ I am not sure it is enough
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I agree with you. $2400 might be enough, but 1000 is seriously pushing it. On a side note, how high are the ceilings?
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Sometimes, family has unrealistic expectations.

If you want to keep peace in the family, walk away and have him talk to the pros about what he wants. He won't listen to you. Trust me, I've been there.
 
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redcore

Audiophyte
I already did his video setup(4 TVs with projector I work for a cable company so on the video side I'm not bad)and I wanted to walk away because if he is deceived by the setup I install for a thousand I am going to be the responsible....but I have advise him that you'll get what you pay for.......ceiling is 10 feet......really needs some speakers anyways,got any brand of 'DJ speakers',btw thxs for the reply :)
 
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GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
I already did his video setup(4 TVs with projector I work for a cable company so on the video side I'm not bad)and I wanted to walk away because if he is deceived by the setup I install for a thousand I am going to be the responsible....but I have advise him that you'll get what you pay for.......ceiling is 10 feet......really needs some speakers anyways,got any brand of 'DJ speakers'
Maybe some Elemental Designs E Cinema with De250 tweeter upgrade?

But you definitely need amps made for commercial settings. Get in touch with the support/sales people for online stores like Sweetwater, BHPhoto, zzsounds, and Musician's Friend, and maybe Partsexpress. Between those stores you should get enough information and advice to make a good decision. Just ask for honest advice on something that will work within the budget.
 
R

redcore

Audiophyte
Thanks for putting me on the right track,will check it out
 

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