anybody ever feel like they're stuck and can't get anywhere? (WARNING:COMPLAINING))

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Midwesthonky

Audioholic General
But seriously, I'm glad you took the plunge. Make it happen and you won't regret it. It can tough to make that first step, but you did so the future is yours now.

As MBXTRIX said, the school will not teach you everything. But the best thing it can teach is how to think and how to analyze. How to plan, how execute that plan, and how to ask questions. You take it from there.

Don't be afraid of anything in your school or career. IF you know nothing about that, just start asking "ok, I don't know jack. So where do we start?" Then keep asking questions and don't stop till your done.

I liked the advice on job interviews. Even when it was just a crappy job for the summer, I always wore slacks, shirt, and tie. Confidence and own it.

Look for opportunities in your field while you are in school. I knew more than one person who was in engineering but spent the summers working at WallyWorld or some other crappy summer job. Graduation came and who was left struggling for a job? Yep.

You've gotten started and have the right attitude so far. Keep it up and you'll do just fine. I'm glad you did it. Make us proud!
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
looks like i have yet another maze of BS to deal with with fafsa, fml

probably won't be able to start until the spring.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
looks like i have yet another maze of BS to deal with with fafsa, fml

probably won't be able to start until the spring.
Read that link in my previous post, particularly the other answers, take notes, and get very familiar with your school's financial aid office. Have your pop be prepared to have his financial info ready and be prepared to apply for as many scholarships as you can.

They don't make it easy or simple.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
finally done with the fafsa stuff. got awarded a $2,775 pell grant for the remainder of the school year. moved to indiana to go to school here and im staying with my grandma for the time being. i'm taking purdues engineering classes at ivy-tech for the first two years and then i'm going to transfer. still looking for a job. just thought i'd update you guys.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
finally done with the fafsa stuff. got awarded a $2,775 pell grant for the remainder of the school year. moved to indiana to go to school here and im staying with my grandma for the time being. i'm taking purdues engineering classes at ivy-tech for the first two years and then i'm going to transfer. still looking for a job. just thought i'd update you guys.
Sometimes, the hardest move to make is the first one. It looks like you just did that. I hope you find school and Indiana a different world than the dead-end place and job you left behind. Good luck!

I join all the others who offered their advice and comments, especially markw, by saying, make us proud :D.
 
Adam

Adam

Audioholic Jedi
Good for you, man. You've gotten a great opportunity - take advantage of it!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
finally done with the fafsa stuff. got awarded a $2,775 pell grant for the remainder of the school year. moved to indiana to go to school here and im staying with my grandma for the time being. i'm taking purdues engineering classes at ivy-tech for the first two years and then i'm going to transfer. still looking for a job. just thought i'd update you guys.
Well done! You seem to have the right stuff. We need people like you more than ever and will especially in the years ahead.

We really will have to go back on our own resources.

Don't get discouraged in the very rough patch we are about to go through.

Just get ready to pick up the pieces after coming out with your qualifications.

Hopefully we will be on the up side of the curve by the time you get your professional qualifications.

Here are a couple of articles by my nephew Peter Apps, who is senior political risk correspondent for Reuters and an adviser to the cabinet office.

Analysis: Euro zone failure could be vast geopolitical shock | Reuters

Slovakia's prime minister says euro zone split may be needed | Reuters

Here is some background as to how the mess got started in Europe.

Europe struggles to hold together a union | StarTribune.com

If you are aware, you can hopefully be prepared and come out on top.

It likely will be a rough ride between here and there.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
Well done! You seem to have the right stuff. We need people like you more than ever and will especially in the years ahead.

We really will have to go back on our own resources.

Don't get discouraged in the very rough patch we are about to go through.

Just get ready to pick up the pieces after coming out with your qualifications.

Hopefully we will be on the up side of the curve by the time you get your professional qualifications.

Here are a couple of articles by my nephew Peter Apps, who is senior political risk correspondent for Reuters and an adviser to the cabinet office.

Analysis: Euro zone failure could be vast geopolitical shock | Reuters

Slovakia's prime minister says euro zone split may be needed | Reuters

Here is some background as to how the mess got started in Europe.

Europe struggles to hold together a union | StarTribune.com

If you are aware, you can hopefully be prepared and come out on top.

It likely will be a rough ride between here and there.
unfortunately i haven't been keeping up with the news on this kind of thing so i'm a bit out of the loop. this is one of the things i was worried about though, getting through college and then everything going to hell. or worse, everything going to hell while im in college and not being able to finish.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
unfortunately i haven't been keeping up with the news on this kind of thing so i'm a bit out of the loop. this is one of the things i was worried about though, getting through college and then everything going to hell. or worse, everything going to hell while im in college and not being able to finish.
Don't worry! Its already gone to Hell. The missiles are well and truly launched.

However every crisis presents opportunities. The bigger the crisis the bigger the opportunities.

A lot of people have not realized it, but China is a huge bubble economy, probably the worst in history. They will get totally blown out of the water.

When all is said and done you will be right there at the new age of American manufacture.

Trust me, your skills will be highly sought after.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
… this is one of the things i was worried about though, getting through college and then everything going to hell. or worse, everything going to hell while im in college and not being able to finish.
Stay in school and finish, especially if economic times are tough. Predictions of the future are always based on what we know now, and there will be plenty of surprises in the future, both good and bad.

Take my father for example. He graduated college in 1935 in the middle of the Great Depression. He had no prospect of a job and needed money. He was interested in physics and managed to get a teaching assistant/grad student post. He got an advanced degree in physics in 1940 just before the start of the war. Opportunities galore opened up for him in a way that no one could have predicted 5 years earlier.

Think long term. You will have better opportunities with a degree and training than without it.
 
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Midwesthonky

Audioholic General
unfortunately i haven't been keeping up with the news on this kind of thing so i'm a bit out of the loop. this is one of the things i was worried about though, getting through college and then everything going to hell. or worse, everything going to hell while im in college and not being able to finish.
You'll pick up more as you get through school. I did my undergrad at Purdue so I am familiar with Indiana and the area. When I entered Purdue, I really wanted to go aero engineering. But when I had to decide an engineering program, the aero industry was in pretty bad shape. So I chose mechanical to provide more flexibility upon graduation. It's led me to experiences I would never have predicted when I was first starting college.

You've started. You're on your way. Getting started is the hardest step.

Now, are you in Lafayette, Indy, Fort Wayne...?? Reason I ask is on I-65 in Lebanon (about 30-35 miles south of Lafayette) is a business park. Many companies in there are usually looking for laborers. You start as temp, but it's a job and a chance to get on full time. Many would like someone willing to work 2nd or 3rd shift. It's not rocket science, but it is cash flow.

You can always drop me a private message as I know some people down there.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
You'll pick up more as you get through school. I did my undergrad at Purdue so I am familiar with Indiana and the area. When I entered Purdue, I really wanted to go aero engineering. But when I had to decide an engineering program, the aero industry was in pretty bad shape. So I chose mechanical to provide more flexibility upon graduation. It's led me to experiences I would never have predicted when I was first starting college.

You've started. You're on your way. Getting started is the hardest step.

Now, are you in Lafayette, Indy, Fort Wayne...?? Reason I ask is on I-65 in Lebanon (about 30-35 miles south of Lafayette) is a business park. Many companies in there are usually looking for laborers. You start as temp, but it's a job and a chance to get on full time. Many would like someone willing to work 2nd or 3rd shift. It's not rocket science, but it is cash flow.

You can always drop me a private message as I know some people down there.
i'm actually in wayne county right now, i'll be going to purdue once i finish two years at ivy-tech, i havent quite thought out how i'm going to go about that yet. i don't think ill be able to live on campus with just FA. the pell grant is the only thing i know of that i qualify for and it's a max of 5500 per school year. i also qualify for a student load of like 5500 but i'm trying to avoid those if i can. the school im going to is WAY cheaper then purdue though. im doing 12 credit hours here and its only like 1400. purdue will probably be at least twice that not to mention room and board. just not sure how i can do that on just financial aid.
 
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Beatmatcher247

Full Audioholic
I know this is a little late probably but maybe this will still be useful to you.

Its hard to take money and time to go to college when it feels like all you are doing is everything that you can to make ends meet. The last thing you want to do is put yourself in the hole with a bunch of student loans with no guarantee of immediate returns towards pulling yourself up out of that hole.

First thing I would do is some soul searching about what it is that I really would enjoy getting bed out of to go do every day. Sometimes it isn't always practical to jump into our dream right away. For e.g., starting a restaurant. Restaurants typically require a lot of startup costs and have a high rate of failure. I wouldn't start one without being able to "be ok" financially if I lost everything on it. Sure you could get other investors to minimize your risk, but you also minimize your potential gains.

Sometimes what people, myself included, end up doing is a job, while not their ideal first choice, or dream job, can be used as a conduit to make your dreams come true. I had some issues getting a career related to my formal education because of some nonviolent marijuana felonies. I'd kill interviews and pass skill assessment tests to work in engineering departments, with my AAS: Electronics and Telecommunications for big companies like Boeing, Micron, Lockheed Martin, Rockwell Collins... they were prepared to offer me big starting salaries based upon my test scores, some of which were the best scores they ever received... I wrote those tests as a 1st year electronics student. They'd be like when can you start? They'd then say HR is going to go over everything once more and we'd like to offer you a job in our engineering department.... then they'd be like "Oh yah, so whats this felony business?" No matter how well I tested or how qualified I was for the positions I applied for, many of these corporations, or the defense contractors they worked for, did not have the flexibility to offer a position to someone with my criminal background.


Frustrated discouraged, I decided to apply to the local IBEW 714 (Electrical worker's union) for an apprenticeship. Something I never would have thought I'd be doing. I went through the apprenticeship program and learned a great deal. Even prior to getting my journeyman's electrician license I was offered a job in the office managing projects. I've generated a great deal of work for the guys in the field and due to careful management am averaging a 20% profit margin on all the projects we acquired by my estimating the cost and getting awarded of such projects. Pretty unheard of to generate both that amount of work and profit margin in the first couple of years of doing it. I am now being groomed to buy one of the three owner's shares when they retire this year.


I do enjoy my career quite a lot more than I would have thought I would and have been having better results than I ever thought I would... I do know my real passion is and always will be being a restaurant, gentleman's club, and nightclub mogul. I'm far from having the money needed to take off any of these ventures with success but I do use my spare time to plan out all of the details so I'm ready when I do... I guess the moral of the story is to keep an open mind, you may find great success doing something you thought you would never be doing. If the environment where you work at is a culture of people taking credit for other's work and never rewarding you for going above and beyond, you best look elsewhere for a corporate ladder that's easier to navigate. Smaller outfits tend to be a lot better than large corporations in my personal, but limited experiences in work-life so far.

Also do try to find somewhere that offers tuition assistance. A culture that cultivates employees' self improvement is also one that probably tends to be more forward thinking about their employees' personal growth. Inquiring about whether something like this is available during an interview lets an employer know that you are success bound and are looking for a fulfilling career rather than "just a job."

I just had an apprentice electrician resign today because this trade isn't for him... I do admire the guts that it takes to admit it rather than fake his way though it for another 4 years after we've made a heavy investment in training him. It just goes to show that some people find great success in trying something they didn't necessarily envision their selves doing someday and some do not. If you aren't happy doing what you are doing, step outside of your comfort zone and try something totally different. How can you find your niche in life if you're too scared to try? I tell buddies who have a hard time talking to women the same thing :). Scared love or money doesn't make any.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
i'm actually in wayne county right now, i'll be going to purdue once i finish two years at ivy-tech, i havent quite thought out how i'm going to go about that yet. i don't think ill be able to live on campus with just FA. the pell grant is the only thing i know of that i qualify for and it's a max of 5500 per school year. i also qualify for a student load of like 5500 but i'm trying to avoid those if i can. the school im going to is WAY cheaper then purdue though. im doing 12 credit hours here and its only like 1400. purdue will probably be at least twice that not to mention room and board. just not sure how i can do that on just financial aid.
Make sure you look for internships. They should help a lot. An Engineering degree from Purdue = a job.
Btw I've heard you've been lifting too. It helps build your confidence.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
Make sure you look for internships. They should help a lot. An Engineering degree from Purdue = a job.
Btw I've heard you've been lifting too. It helps build your confidence.
yeah, probably going to lay off of that for awhile. it seems to be more added stress then it has to be right now. plus i'm not getting very far with it. i'm not very genetically gifted athletically lol
 
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