Steve Jobs has died.

gene

gene

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Gene,

I expected better from you. A simple I am sorry he is gone would have sufficed no matter what your hate of Apple and Jobs was, but you took the effort to bash Apple with your petty iPhone comments on the death of Steve Jobs and that is beyond low. Everyone knows it and may not have the courage to say it but I do. Really you should be ashamed. Not the time or place to be Apple bashing. I only used the conservative/liberal to point out differences between Jobs and I and in no way was trying to start any kind political discussion so don't even try and turn this on me when it is you that are in the wrong. Everyone knows the point I was trying to make and I doubt a single person took it as a political discussion so you can negative rep me all you want, but it only shows your character not mine.
Jeff as I stated in your "Done!" thread, I am an Apple and Steve Jobs fan. I didn't make that statement to disrespect Steve. I felt his death was somewhat anti-climatic since he just recently resigned from Apple and they made a rather lackluster announcement about a new iPhone that was nothing more than an upgrade to the iPhone4 (which I own). I miss the days when Steve would announce the next big thing. He wasn't only a great innovator but a great marketeer whom I've always tried to learn from in hopes to produce even a fraction of his success with my website Audioholics.

That being said, I have one of our writers doing an article in tribute to Steve Jobs which should be online in the next couple of days.

If you got offended by my prior comment b/c you took it the wrong way, then you really need to grow some thicker skin.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
i'll ignore the "Done!" drama, since my response would be considered rude by many... lets just leave it there...

Back on topic, The net is full of very good articles remembering Steve, but one in particular caught my attention:

Steve Jobs: a personal remembrance

Specifically this paragraph:
In a post-Steve-Jobs world, there is no longer an excuse for large corporations to be less bold than start-ups. Elegance, character, artistic integrity, and ruthless dedication to design can no longer be derided as luxuries of those who don't have anything to lose. Apple is now one of the largest, most successful companies in the world, but it still behaves as if all of its employees could fit in a 9x7-inch photo
I 100% agree with this and this should be always be kept on the minds of CEO's of any large company today. Yes, this is possible and Steve proven it could be done.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Really Gene? is that the best you can say about a fellow lib? That's really low even for a lib like you:mad:

Steve was a liberal for sure, but there was NO denying his importance in the computer industry even for hard core PC users. He single handily brought back Apple from the brink due is his keen business insight and savvy. The way we use computers today would be much different if not for Steve Jobs. I am a conservative and he was very much a liberal, but I am not so partisan to know that he was truly an important person in the tech world. I am Very disappointed in your response Gene. It is low even for a liberal. You should be ashamed.
Geez are you serious? Why are you bringing politics into this? Quit being such a baby. But I guess there's not point in my typing this since you're "done" with Audioholics.

That said, I was always a huge Apple fan, (I had a IIgs in college), but their products were always overpriced in my opinion. I would have loved to have a color Mac back in the day but couldn't afford one on my student's budget. Too bad the Power Mac clone thing never really took off.

I don't have an iPhone and I don't have an iPod, but there's no denying the complete juggernaut that Apple has become in the consumer electronics world.

RIP Steve. At least Woz is still alive.
 
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lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Steve Jobs is simply the greatest technological innovator of the late 20th and early 21st century. His products cost so much because he actually bore the engineering costs of creating them.

He's on the same level as Thomas Edison IMO. He and Woz invented the PC. He invented the ipod, Iphone, and pushed the tablet forward. Seriously the guy was the greatest engineer of my lifetime.
 
jonnythan

jonnythan

Audioholic Ninja
Jobs is the most important figure in the history of computing technology. There has never been anyone remotely like him, and I doubt I will ever see anyone else like him in my lifetime.

We are missing out on a great deal of exciting, beautiful things because of his passing. Things that no one else will be able to create.
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Jobs is the most important figure in the history of computing technology. There has never been anyone remotely like him, and I doubt I will ever see anyone else like him in my lifetime.

We are missing out on a great deal of exciting, beautiful things because of his passing. Things that no one else will be able to create.
There are technological innovations still coming. The day when computers will simply be a part of your jewelry are on their way. The day when cars will be nearly automated are on their way. I'm excited with the innovations that the Indian influx is bringing. Kids raised to be engineers and some of them are so brilliant your jaw drops.
 
haraldo

haraldo

Audioholic Warlord
The things I wonder or think about is that four kids no longer can talk to Dad and that a wife rolls over in bed to clutch an empty pillow. So for a little while, I'll wonder what his family life was like. I'll wonder if the drive he demonstrated while at Apple's helm somehow compromised his personal life and if so, did he somehow close the circle when he left. And I hope that when he died he was surrounded by love.

On a pathetic note, I've read where the Westboro Baptist Church will be looking to protest his funeral. The irony will be if any of them will be using iPhones.
This we'll probably never know and we shouldn't because there's a personal sphere to, even for the late Mr. Steve Jobs and his family....

I remember... back in the 80's I did a project on an original V 1.0 Macintosh, with no harddisk and only a 3.5" floppy. I was using a Pascal compiler that was so buggy it could bring the whole OS into instability, for those who know Pascal the syntax is so that the program should complete with an End. And if the . in the program was missing the compiler would go to an infinite loop that brought the OS into never never land, this is where the famous "Finder Bomb" turned up, and I had to reboot and it took a long long time :eek:

All these issues with the compiler made me scream in horror and it provided me with many "interesting" moments; in the end, however, everything turned out very well and project was a big success.

What is clear from that moment is that, despite it's issues, Apple and the two Steve's brought a product that was lightyears ahead of anything else at that moment. The design of the Macintosh was at least as revolutionary as the Lamborghini Countach was when it was introduced, the user interface and the user experience was way ahead of competition (that is as long as the OS did not crash showing me the bomb), yes, they got ideas from Xerox, but Steve Jobs managed to make a product of this when Xerox did not.

The products they mad in the 80's were so far ahead of competition, I believe it took Microsoft something like at least 12 years to slightly catch up, perhaps with Windows 95 they were getting closer to catch up, but then Apple were in another position...

What happened later, is no reason to repeat here :p

I don't buy Apple products and I won't but I have the uttermost respect for Steve Jobs and his work, Steve changed the world and the way we think about electronics and devices.

The world without Mr. Jobs will not be the same... it's not gonna be the same rock shows when a new product is released, it's not gonna be the same exciting stories about products and user experiences... Mr Jobs was one of a kind, we will miss you.......
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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What is clear from that moment is that, despite it's issues, Apple and the two Steve's brought a product that was lightyears ahead of anything else at that moment. The design of the Macintosh was at least as revolutionary as the Lamborghini Countach was when it was introduced, the user interface and the user experience was way ahead of competition (that is as long as the OS did not crash showing me the bomb), yes, they got ideas from Xerox, but Steve Jobs managed to make a product of this when Xerox did not.
That is where there was always a debate. Un-arguably the Amiga was the machine in that time frame that was way ahead of the curve. It's the machine I wish Apple had instead of the bungling management at Commodore. It was without a doubt a machine 7-8 years ahead of it's time. And it only took Commodore to blow it.
 
gene

gene

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That is where there was always a debate. Un-arguably the Amiga was the machine in that time frame that was way ahead of the curve. It's the machine I wish Apple had instead of the bungling management at Commodore. It was without a doubt a machine 7-8 years ahead of it's time. And it only took Commodore to blow it.
I loved the Amiga when it came out. It had a 50Mhz clock speed which was unheard of at the time, the best sound and graphics compared to any commercial computer. Commodore had stereo sound, multi voices and color while IBM was still green with beep sounds only. Commodore unfortunately was poorly managed and software support was lacking.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
I loved the Amiga when it came out. It had a 50Mhz clock speed which was unheard of at the time, the best sound and graphics compared to any commercial computer. Commodore had stereo sound, multi voices and color while IBM was still green with beep sounds only. Commodore unfortunately was poorly managed and software support was lacking.
I wasn't cool enough to have an Amiga. I had a Commodore 64 with the lame-*** tape drive. Before that I had the even more pitiful Atari TRS-80. I believe people called it the "Trash 80". :D

Ah the memories.
 
Adam

Adam

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I wasn't cool enough to have an Amiga. I had a Commodore 64 with the lame-*** tape drive. Before that I had the even more pitiful Atari TRS-80. I believe people called it the "Trash 80". :D
It's like we were separated at birth. :D Well, except that I had the disk drive for the Commodore 64. :p We were rockin' the TRS-80 Model 3 with an external tape drive (well, tape recorder) growing up.

The TRS-80 wasn't Atari, though. TRS was from Tandy and sold at Radio Shack (hence, "TRS," I'm guessing).
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

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I'm having flashbacks to tiny low res black-green computer screens O_O;;;
 
gene

gene

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I wasn't cool enough to have an Amiga. I had a Commodore 64 with the lame-*** tape drive. Before that I had the even more pitiful Atari TRS-80. I believe people called it the "Trash 80". :D

Ah the memories.
I couldn't afford an Amiga either. My friend had one. I first had a Vic20 with Tape, then got a C64 which died on me 3 times (reliability issues). I then bought a used C128 and left it in C64 mode 99% of its life b/c there was no software for it. I even had the fastload software for the disc drive to make game load times less painful :)
 
gmichael

gmichael

Audioholic Spartan
I wasn't cool enough to have an Amiga. I had a Commodore 64 with the lame-*** tape drive. Before that I had the even more pitiful Atari TRS-80. I believe people called it the "Trash 80". :D

Ah the memories.
I had a Commodore Pet with 8k of memory and the lame-o-tape drive. I longed for a 64.
 
jinjuku

jinjuku

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My first machine was an Atari 800XL (basically the same team behind the Amiga).

Guys like RJ Mical, Jay Miner, Carl Sassenthrath, Dave Needle, Dave Dean, Dale Luck, Sam Dicker, Glen Keller.


CDTV was ANOTHER product WAY ahead of it's time. While the engineering talent was there in spades, Commodore management seemed to have an aversion to cleaning a trivial amount of poop off of the golden eggs and definitely didn't like having to feed the goose.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
Despite all Jobs praises,In the end of the day he was only a human and not a deity :
What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs

This reminds me why I canceled my original iphone 2g after contract expired and would never go back to apple smartphone.

This excerpt stood out the most:

Jobs has no public record of giving to charity over the years, despite the fact he became wealthy after Apple's 1980 IPO and had accumulated an estimated $7 billion net worth by the time of his death. After closing Apple's philanthropic programs on his return to Apple in 1997, he never reinstated them, despite the company's gusher of profits.

It's possible Jobs has given to charity anonymously, or that he will posthumously, but he has hardly embraced or encouraged philanthropy in the manner of, say, Bill Gates, who pledged $60 billion to charity and who joined with Warren Buffet to push fellow billionaires to give even more.

"He clearly didn't have the time," is what the director of Jobs' short-lived charitable foundation told the New York Times.
 
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