Star Wars: The Complete Saga on Blu-ray

[its phillip]

I am referring more to the other digital additions and changes he made, not the audio changes. The "Nooooooo" doesn't really bother me one way or the other, though I don't think it added anything. Is it really such a big deal that nerds need to get their panties in a bunch? Get over it people.

It clearly is for some of us.

 

[j_garcia]

Its a freaking movie. NO movie is that important that one really needs to worry about a detail like this, IMHO. Not trying to offend anyone; I just don't think it is such a big deal.

 

[Pyrrho]

So George didn't have the budget or technology to record a crappy line of dialog 30 years ago? What did he run out of microphones that day???
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Some people are just ready to believe every lie that comes out of Lucas' mouth. Every film ever made would have been different if the available resources had been different. If you wanted to make a new film with John Wayne, for example, you would run into some extra difficulties that one would not have had 50 years ago. Basically, Lucas just uses that as a excuse for making things different in a way that he now wants, without any regard for what he wanted when the films were made.

Also, this way he will sucker many people into buying the movies twice, once now, and again when he releases the original version in a few years.

The idea that he is an artist rather than a whore who is milking this for all it is worth is ridiculous.

 

[Pyrrho]

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He did it because it is his vision. It's his work. He can do anything he wants with it. That's all there is to it.
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Those who own the copyright to a work can do just about anything they want with it. That does not mean that everyone must keep their opinions about it to themselves. And in fact, Lucas argued before Congress that people ought not have the right to alter things, to which they legally had the rights, in whatever manner they pleased, which is something that some of us find distasteful, given his subsequent actions.

Regardless of his legal right to do as he is doing (which I do not know of anyone disputing), it is an entirely separate question whether he ought to alter the films. Certainly, those who disapprove are right to express their disapproval.

 

[Pyrrho]

Its a freaking movie. NO movie is that important that one really needs to worry about a detail like this, IMHO. Not trying to offend anyone; I just don't think it is such a big deal.

If you are right, then Lucas' claims about it being important "artistic" changes is pure BS.

 

[its phillip]

Its a freaking movie. NO movie is that important that one really needs to worry about a detail like this, IMHO. Not trying to offend anyone; I just don't think it is such a big deal.

You obviously don't think it's that big a deal. Others obviously do. I'm not buying the movies because I don't want them with those changes. You bought them because the changes don't matter to you. If the changes don't matter, then they never should have been made in the first place.

 

[j_garcia]

The changes don't matter TO ME. Clearly Lucas felt the need to tweak.

 

[its phillip]

Fair enough. I still think Lucas is a moron. It's safe to say that the majority of star wars nerds (the people who buy his crap over and over, me included) are not happy with the changes. They do nothing but detract from the films. Doesn't make any sense.

 

[j_garcia]

He has nothing better to do apparently.

From the other thread in steam vent. Pretty funny:

 

[Adam]

Is it really such a big deal that nerds need to get their panties in a bunch?

I wish that I had a bunch of nerd panties.

Just sayin'...

And, yeah, if you're looking at the Star Trek badge and care, you're a nerd. Besides, it's only a matter of time before Vulcans end up in that cantina scene...

 

[TheWarrior]

Yeah leave it to Star Trek to break up the monotony of a Star Wars debate...

Scuze me while I go find some 7 of 9 pictures

 

[darien87]

The fallacy you commit here is called an argumentum ad populum. Because everyone (or apparently everyone) thinks something is so it must be so. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populumhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum)

Are you serious???? You're actually coming at me with a stupid post about a fallacy in my argument? That's the best you've got?

The point is that almost EVERYONE I have spoken to about the adding of that line of dialog at the end of Jedi thinks it is stupid and completely unnecessary. Sure George can go and make any change to the movies he wants, they're his movies. But he isn't making art, he is making a product that he hopes to sell to as many customers as possible. Please explain to me how it is in his and 20th Century Fox to make changes that make his customers unhappy?

I'm sure that he and the rest of the stuido execs crunched the numbers and figured that enough people would begrudginly but them anyway simply because they've been waiting to see the movies on BD for so long. Sad but true.

 

[3db]

I owned it on VHS, replaced it with DVD and that is as far as I'm taking this puppy. Its not worth replacing yet again.

 

[Wayde Robson]

I had a chance last weekend to watch Star Wars Episode 1 with my son who is 8 years old and I that they're actually made to appeal to kids my son's age - not adults.

Watching my boy's cues, laughter at certain parts etc I realize that the prequels and edits to the originals are an effort to make kid's movies. They're more on line with a Pixar film.

The trouble with that is that my son could care less about all the talky bits and doesn't care about ambassadors, federations, alliance or Senates. I think the Episodes I, II and III might be too dumbed down and cutesey to appeal to the original Star Wars crowd but too intracate and complex in storyline to actually pass as kid's movies.

My son said he liked Jar Jar because he's funny - ugh... I avoided squashing his opinion with my own protest about the character. I just accept that the <10 year-old demographic is what George Lucas was going for - Jar Jar was clearly added to break up the boring talky bits.

 

[zhimbo]

I realize that the prequels and edits to the originals are an effort to make kid's movies.

I think you're right...but the original Star Wars was ENORMOUSLY successful with kids. Kids LOVED the original trilogy. All these fans "of a certain age" first saw these movies as kids and fell in love with them. There's no need to edit them to make them "kid's movies".

...and I think you give the right diagnosis for the new prequels: too dumb 'n' cutesy for old fans, too full of boring talky diplomatic blah blah for...well, for everyone, really, not just kids.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I was 8 yrs old when I first saw SW EP4. I loved it. Most of us did. I think most of us were kids when we first saw SW EP4.

We cannot love a movie if we cannot care about the characters or even hate the characters.

I think the best movies are the ones in which the audience loves the protagonist, but at the same time feel sorry for the antagonist.

I learned in grade school that all stories need character developement and plot, among other things like setting, climax, and resolution.

I guess Lucas never learned that. Did he even go to school?

 

[3db]

I guess Lucas never learned that. Did he even go to school?

I'd be willing to give up on some of my edgemacation for his money.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I'd be willing to give up on some of my edgemacation for his money.

Same here.

Better to be lucky than smart, right?