XPA-3 placement

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Sounds like you're equating Emo with Bose

Not at all.

I've owned the MSP-2 in the past and I thought it sounded fantastic.

The important thing is how your system sounds to you. That is my point.

I am not equating anything.

 

[Alex2507]

Not at all.

I've owned the MSP-2 in the past and I thought it sounded fantastic.

The important thing is how your system sounds to you. That is my point.

I am not equating anything.

Gotcha ...

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Gotcha ...

That was a close one!

What were you trying to do, get me killed or something?

And for the record, I don't think $700 for an amp is pocket change either!

But I fully understand why some folks would rather pay $700 than $1,400 for an amp.

 

[Alex2507]

That was a close one!

What were you trying to do, get me killed or something?

I didn't think you were equating one with the other but thought I'd point out that
it sounded like it and also I thought my post illustrated my being okay with people
not being down with all the stuff I like or might like to own some day ... Zumbo.

 

[Mike Ronesia]

You're right. At this point, it's a battle that is just plain silly for me to be fighting.

I am here due to my passion for the hobby. I love quality, and good sound.

Others are here due to their extreme knowledge of how components are built, and they are far too advanced to get involved with most that are just looking for cheap equipment.

Then, there is the others. These seem to be here to sway newly joined members to buy some johnny-come-lately brand they have never heard of. What is amazing to me, is how well it works.

Tried-and-true. It's what I do.

So you would rather people just don't get into the hobby at all? Do you think most new golfers go out and get the nicest set of Ping's or whatever is the latest and greatest when they first start out? If you truly love this hobby and want more people to get into it as well, you should be thrilled that there is inexpensive way to get their feet wet, but at the same time sounds significantly better then a standard Denon or other AVR so they can hear it and want to improve even more.

If not for Emotiva I'd still be listening to my crappy old Denon 2808.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Zum, you forgot one other type of person who is here too. That is the person that knows that the human ear is not going to hear a difference between a Pair of Emo Mono Blocks at $999 each or a set of Levinson Mono Blocks at $7,000 a piece. Sure the Levinsons are pretty, but unless I win the Lotto, I won't be getting them anytime soon. I could ,however, conceivably afford 3-5 Emo mono-blocks at some point though. If you think at that level you are going to hear a difference then you are at the wrong website. You might want to see if Sterophile has a forum

 

[zumbo]

Reliability-Questionable

Resale Value-Questionable

Sound-Debatable

Value-Debatable

Warranty-Usable

Reason why so many here recommend them-Visible

So what if they pack-up and decide to try something new?

What happened to AV123?

What happened to the people who purchased their products?

How would you feel if you had the product, but there was no more Emo?

Then, how would you feel if you had helped convince many people to fill their HT with such items?

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Reliability-Questionable

Resale Value-Questionable

Sound-Debatable

Value-Debatable

Warranty-Usable

Reason why so many here recommend them-Visible

So what if they pack-up and decide to try something new?

What happened to AV123?

What happened to the people who purchased their products?

How would you feel if you had the product, but there was no more Emo?

Then, how would you feel if you had helped convince many people to fill their HT with such items?

Your argument is invalid.

Your saying one should never buy from a company because they are new on the scene? We should only buy from companies that have been around and are established?

Don't know if you have been paying attention lately, but a lot of so-called established companies have folded up.

 

[tjf120]

Reliability-Questionable

Resale Value-Questionable

Sound-Debatable

Value-Debatable

Warranty-Usable

Reason why so many here recommend them-Visible

So what if they pack-up and decide to try something new?

What happened to AV123?

What happened to the people who purchased their products?

How would you feel if you had the product, but there was no more Emo?

Then, how would you feel if you had helped convince many people to fill their HT with such items?

Reliability questionable? Other than the UMC-1, given the warranty, that statement is incorrect. If problem, send it back. For their amps, very very few people report problems.

Resale, go to their forums, people are selling their equipment. Typically for 75% of new. Thats pretty good I'd say.

Sound, go to Audioholics.com and read their reviews of the Emotiva amps. They often say things like "no notable difference with amps that cost 10X as much"

Value - now you're just being silly, that is the primary reason people buy their gear.

Warranty - better than most

Why would you compare Emotiva to AV123 vs any other company? Invalid comparison.

 

[ougrad02]

Zum, you forgot one other type of person who is here too. That is the person that knows that the human ear is not going to hear a difference between a Pair of Emo Mono Blocks at $999 each or a set of Levinson Mono Blocks at $7,000 a piece. Sure the Levinsons are pretty, but unless I win the Lotto, I won't be getting them anytime soon. I could ,however, conceivably afford 3-5 Emo mono-blocks at some point though. If you think at that level you are going to hear a difference then you are at the wrong website. You might want to see if Sterophile has a forum

So basically you are saying people only go with the more expensive amps for name recognition and status? I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand so I can make the best decision regarding my system. I could afford say something like the Anthem MCA50 amplifier (roughly 3 times as much as say an xpa-5) but if it offers no advantage or better sound to me over the xpa-5 I won't spend the money. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this? Thanks.

 

[zumbo]

Why would you compare Emotiva to AV123 vs any other company? Invalid comparison.

Maybe you should research this question for yourself.

And on that note, are you saying AV123 would've been a bad company to buy from?

Heck, I can't even find a website for them.

 

[zumbo]

Zum, you forgot one other type of person who is here too. That is the person that knows that the human ear is not going to hear a difference between a Pair of Emo Mono Blocks at $999 each or a set of Levinson Mono Blocks at $7,000 a piece. Sure the Levinsons are pretty, but unless I win the Lotto, I won't be getting them anytime soon. I could ,however, conceivably afford 3-5 Emo mono-blocks at some point though. If you think at that level you are going to hear a difference then you are at the wrong website. You might want to see if Sterophile has a forum

Never mentioned one thing about hearing a difference.

It's all about looking-out for the person with a limited budget.

I have a limited budget. I dabbled in junk. Learned my lesson.

Like I said, tried and true. It's what I do.

 

[zumbo]

Reliability questionable? Other than the UMC-1, given the warranty, that statement is incorrect. If problem, send it back. For their amps, very very few people report problems.

Like I said, questionable.

Resale, go to their forums, people are selling their equipment. Typically for 75% of new. Thats pretty good I'd say.

My point highlighted. No explanation needed.

Sound, go to Audioholics.com and read their reviews of the Emotiva amps. They often say things like "no notable difference with amps that cost 10X as much"

Reviews are advertisements. I am sure they sound like any other amp. Doesn't mean it isn't debatable.

Value - now you're just being silly, that is the primary reason people buy their gear.

No, they buy it because it's cheap. Just because something is cheap certainly doesn't make it valuable.

What you guys seem to be missing is the fact that I am on your side.

The problem is, y'all are taking it personal.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

What you guys seem to be missing is the fact that I am on your side.

The problem is, y'all are taking it personal.

I don't think anyone is taking it personal, but we have beat up on you enough. We are right and you are wrong so we will just leave it at that

 

[jeffsg4mac]

So basically you are saying people only go with the more expensive amps for name recognition and status? I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand so I can make the best decision regarding my system. I could afford say something like the Anthem MCA50 amplifier (roughly 3 times as much as say an xpa-5) but if it offers no advantage or better sound to me over the xpa-5 I won't spend the money. I'd appreciate your thoughts on this? Thanks.

Well that is the million dollar question you asked. I would say purchase the best you can get within your budget. Do your research and go with what makes you happy and with what you feel comfortable with. In some respects audio gear is like buying a car or motorcycle. Most of the stuff in all price ranges is pretty good so you go with what catches your eye and ears.

However, there is some gear out there that is WAY overpriced for what you are getting. The law of diminishing returns certainly comes into play with audio gear.

 

[Nomo]

This is all very exciting.

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Reliability-Questionable

Resale Value-Questionable

Sound-Debatable

Value-Debatable

Warranty-Usable

Reason why so many here recommend them-Visible

So what if they pack-up and decide to try something new?

What happened to AV123?

What happened to the people who purchased their products?

How would you feel if you had the product, but there was no more Emo?

Then, how would you feel if you had helped convince many people to fill their HT with such items?

 

[darien87]

I had never heard of Emotiva before I came to this site. I am glad that I did. I have never been nor will I probably ever be, rich. So everything I buy has to have maximum bang for the buck. My first amp was a 3-channel Acurus. It was a great amp, but it was old and it kept blowing fuses. I then went to the Emotiva LPA-1 and then sold that and got the XPA-5. I couldn't be happier with my choice. I think my XPA looks and sounds great. I bought mine on sale a couple of years ago when they were selling the XPA-5 for $599 with free shipping. Name a single amp out there that can come close to the XPA-5 for that kind of money.

Also, my last 3 receivers were a Yamaha (don't remember which one), then the Denon 2805, then the Yamaha 661. My Emotiva UMC-1 kicks the crap out of any of those receivers I had previously. I couldn't tell you if they were made in China and not Japan though.

Like I said, for me it's all about bang for the buck. But I do try to buy American and local whenever possible if I can afford it. That's one of the reasons I drive a Mustang. I keep trying to talk my wife into a Fusion for her next car but she doesn't like the front.

She wants a Mazda 3. What are ya gonna do?

 

[zumbo]

Until Mazda comes out with a new model, the current 3 was designed under Fords umbrella.

The 3(323/Protege) and Ford Escort are the same vehicle.

EDIT:Certain years interchange.

 

[zumbo]

Looks as though the Volvo S40 is related as well.

Ford has sold Volvo, and many others they owned. It's the reason they didn't need a bail-out.

Ford no longer owns Mazda, but they are still related. They have been partners for years.

Ford Courier.
It's a Mazda.

Mazda B3000
It's a Ford Ranger.

 

[zumbo]

I learned how to shift a manual in a Ford Courier.

I learned how to steer in a AMC Gremlin.

Just for those who don't know, Isuzu and Chevy have had the same type of relationship.

Chevy Luv is an Isuzu.

Their compact pick-ups are still identical.

Isuzu Ascender is a Chevy Trailblazer.