Denon avr-4311ci vs. Yamaha rx-a3000 vs. Marantz sr7005

[CRASHFRANKDAVIS]

I am in the process of selecting a receiver and I am hoping to gain a bit of knowledge. This will be my first go at a receiver in many years and they have come a long ways. I am currently, and have been over the last few years, using a bose lifestyle system and I am feeling completely underwhelmed. After many weeks of research, I have narrowed my choices to the three noted.

My usage will be Bluray 45% / Music 45% / Gaming 10%

I am hoping to get some pros and cons, so that I can make an informed decision when making this purchase.

As a side note: I will running Aperion Audio Speakers.

Any input is much appreciated.

Regards

 

[CRASHFRANKDAVIS]

Little Help Please

I know some one in this forum has some info to share on this topic. Any help is much appreciated.

 

[jostenmeat]

Since you've done many weeks of research, I bet you know more than I do about these receivers.

If you want usable information, without posters fearing they will be wasting their time, you really ought to share what *you* have learned, and what particular things attract you to any certain receiver.

Personally, I'd go for the Denon for the feature set, namely the Audssey suite, but in fact I'd keep waiting for XT32.

IF* I didn't care about Audyssey suites, I'd probably go with Yamaha because I have the impression that they are very reliable, and they also have a reputation for clean preamp sections. The first thing that I would investigate with Yammy is the bass mgmt, and how flexible xover choices are.

I don't have the slightest clue about how the amp sections compare, perhaps because I would probably never use the amps.

For me, the feature set is the determining factor.

 

[Patrukas777]

I don't know much about the yammy and marantz, but I can tell you the Denon is an excellent receiver. I've owned 3 Denons and Yammy. I currently have the 4310 CI, and love it.

 

[PENG]

The Denon may have the best overall specs, except that the Marantz has the ABT VRS for sure while the Denon may not (some say yes but I would like Denon to confirm it). If you don't care much about the onboard VP then I would recommend the Denon for sure.

 

[CRASHFRANKDAVIS]

Thank you for the responses.

Thank you all for your responses.

 

[Rocky 1]

Denon avr 4311ci vs. Yamaha rx-a3000 vs.Marantz sr7005

I'm curious . What was your finial decision as i am presently deciding with the same products in mind except i would include the Onkyo mid fi .. Is your interest the best audio for the price or all the bells and whistles?

 

[PENG]

The 4311 specs look really impressive. 11.2 preouts, 9 discrete channel amps, claimed 4 ohm load capability, ABT VRS, dual 32 bit processor, prepro mode, Audyssey MultEq XT32, and now it seems they have retained the Burr Brown DACs 2 X 11.

 

[rjxox]

i read a few posts that said the marantz has noise issues. Im having the same problem trying to decide which to go with. Im also looking at pioneer elite sc37. Someone just buy one for me ok? lol

 

[3db]

I'll throw a vote in for the Yamaha being an owner of an older RX-V1800 and can speak from experience about its perfomance which is top notch. The Yamaha recevied nothing but stellar revies here at Audioholics.

 

[PENG]

i read a few posts that said the marantz has noise issues. Im having the same problem trying to decide which to go with. Im also looking at pioneer elite sc37. Someone just buy one for me ok? lol

Don't just go by a few posts. Let's say if I post a couple of times about noise issue with the SC37, are you going to think it too has noise issues.

 

[rjxox]

so true and i did also read a few posts that said the marantz had 0 noise from the speakers when the volume was off.

Im still having a hard time but now i leaning towards the Denon 4311. Im thinking nice power, Audyssey's MultEQ XT 32, 3D (which i dont care for but future proofing?)
The specs appear to say less distortion. I have read to not over value the distortion ratings however. I got the salesman down to $1999 in Canada. Also "ability to shutdown the internal amps". Im still confused.

 

[PENG]

so true and i did also read a few posts that said the marantz had 0 noise from the speakers when the volume was off.

Im still having a hard time but now i leaning towards the Denon 4311. Im thinking nice power, Audyssey's MultEQ XT 32, 3D (which i dont care for but future proofing?)
The specs appear to say less distortion. I have read to not over value the distortion ratings however. I got the salesman down to $1999 in Canada. Also "ability to shutdown the internal amps". Im still confused.

When the 4311 was listed for $2699 in Canada I paid $2000, and that's when C$ was no where near parity with the US$. So for the 4311 you should get him to go down some more, $1499 would probably be the best you could get but you should not pay more than $1600. I do agree the 4311 seems to have strike the best balance in features and specs. Aside from MultiEq XT32, 3D, preamp mode, it also features MultiEqPro (CI) ABT VRS, 6 rear HDMI inputs, Burr Brown DACs, dual 32 bit DSP, 9 discrete amps, 11.2 pre-outs, HDCD, SACD (DSD) decoding, Denon Link 4, and more.

 

[rjxox]

prices seem a lot higher here. Even the few internet sites that sell to Canada it still seems to be $2000. I will sure try to work him though.

 

[3db]

Denon in Canada blows period. They are always $500 to $600 more than a comparable equipped Yamaha for some reason. I never understood their reason behind. They are no better/worse a receveir than Yamaha but for some reason market themsleves upscale.

 

[porthopeguy]

Hi there.

If its of any help to you I am on my 4th Yamaha amp (RX-V3800) and have never had a problem with any of them, whereas most of the other brands listed have had one or another problem at varying times, with various models. I've read some stellar reviews of the new RX-A3000 and must say that if I were in your shoes, it would be the one given the most consideration.

Just my .02 worth

 

[rjxox]

Hi there.

If its of any help to you I am on my 4th Yamaha amp (RX-V3800) and have never had a problem with any of them, whereas most of the other brands listed have had one or another problem at varying times, with various models. I've read some stellar reviews of the new RX-A3000 and must say that if I were in your shoes, it would be the one given the most consideration.

Just my .02 worth

Basically thats what im torn between A-3000 and Denon 4311. Comparing the yamaha i figured theres not a lot of difference between the A2000 and A3000 a little more wattage basically.

 

[jostenmeat]

Yamaha processors don't even make it on my radar, and the 4311 is #1 on my current wishlist, above all others that are less than several thousand dollars such as the AVPHD1 or D2v.

 

[3db]

Yamaha processors don't even make it on my radar, and the 4311 is #1 on my current wishlist, above all others that are less than several thousand dollars such as the AVPHD1 or D2v.

From the test results shown by Audioholics, I find it odd that you would not even consider looking at the Yamaha.

I think this "DSP fetish" is being blown way out of proportion and if side by side comparisons were made, it would be very difficult to tell the difference between them.

The amp sections on the Yamaha is very capable and has more than enough grunt to power any speakers to ear bleeding levels with ease. Its DSP is very capable in providing excellent room corrections. Here in Canada, I'll never look at Denon because of their price premiums over Yamaha. Their products are simply not that good to warrant the price difference over Yamaha.

 

[billy p]

From the test results shown by Audioholics, I find it odd that you would not even consider looking at the Yamaha.

I think this "DSP fetish" is being blown way out of proportion and if side by side comparisons were made, it would be very difficult to tell the difference between them.

The amp sections on the Yamaha is very capable and has more than enough grunt to power any speakers to ear bleeding levels with ease. Its DSP is very capable in providing excellent room corrections. Here in Canada, I'll never look at Denon because of their price premiums over Yamaha. Their products are simply not that good to warrant the price difference over Yamaha.

For some it boils down to Audyssey vs. YPAO or MCACC and to be more specific the new multEQ xt 32 which they now used even allows for sub EQ and that would be very nice indeed. If one uses cost or specs as the baseline for buying a AVR...Yamaha should win hands down, but YPAO just isn't funtional enough for more discerning type of audioholic. My experience having used YPAO it did some things well and others not so much....

My 2 cents....