XPA-3 placement

[jeffsg4mac]

Build quality. .1% distortion is a clear indicator to me.

I will have to disagree. It is the design not the build quality. Gene certainly did not have an issue with it.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-xpa-2/xpa-2-measurements

 

[Nomo]

I hate Chinese manufacturing as much as anyone, probably more.
My company does metal fabrication. I've seen too many projects I've helped prototype/design go to China for production.
But as a consumer I am looking for the best price for my dwindling dollar.
I've bought from Yamaha, Emotiva, Panasonic, and Monoprice, just to name a few. All of these companies most likely have their manufacturing done in China.
Buying the American made equivalents to these companies, even if they existed, would cost me more than I can afford.
I understand the disdain for Chinese products. But it will take more than just a bunch of audiofools such as us banding together to change the way things are.

Bottom line:
Emo makes a better product than any other company, American or other wise, can offer for the money. Slamming them simply because of their choice of manufacturing locale is unfair.

 

[ougrad02]

What impact on sound quality does thd have on things in a real world application? Will the human ear hear the diference between say a .1% rating as compared to a .08% or ever .03%. Obviously to move up into these elite distortion level ratings the big bucks need to come out. Is it really worth it? I know some will say its personal preference but are you paying for something your ears will tell you is no different anyway. On another note I looked at some of the Anthem offerings and I believe some of them have .1% distortion as well. Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to learn and seeing the debate between those who know more than me is very educational to me. Thanks.

 

[Nomo]

THD is a numbers game.
Some one correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall the human ear cannot hear anything below 2.0%.
That's not to say that the numbers are irrelevant.
Could any one hear the difference between .06 and .1? I doubt it.
Those numbers are a point on a graph that the manufacturer felt to be a comfortable compromise between a relative flat line and the point where that chart jumps beyond the notable level.

 

[Alex2507]

Recently there was a similar thread about placing an amp on a sub and I believe the consensus was 'go for it'. Plate amps are strapped to subs with no problems and with your Emo you could provide some vibration isolators.

Don't mind these other guys who don't know how to keep a thread on track.
There mommas didn't raise them right.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

My only concern is scratching the sub with an 80 lb amp.

As long as you don't slide the amp across the sub, I don't see an issue.

 

[Nomo]

Don't mind these other guys who don't know how to keep a thread on track.
There mommas didn't raise them right.

Well put Mr. Pot.

Thanks,
Mr. Kettle

 

[zumbo]

Distortion that can be heard is one thing.

Distortion that is present, and being sent to my speakers in an amplified manner is another.

Denon POA amps are .005%.

.005 x 20 = .01

That means to me the Emo is 20 times more distorted than Denon. Can I hear it? Probably not.

Is it being sent to my precious speakers that are not made any more? 100% yes.

Yamaha is made in Malaysia.

My Adcom was made in Thailand.

 

[Alex2507]

My Adcom was made in Thailand.

I've been eating a lot of Thai food lately and
I must say that I am very impressed with those people.

 

[zumbo]

How is buying a used piece such as I listed helping my concern?

I can assure you someone selling an amp with .005% THD is not going to be buying an Emo equivalent. They will be going up the food chain.

So one could say you may not be buying the used amp from the person that actually owned it. Still, the person that owned it is on to something of higher quality.

 

[zumbo]

I've been eating a lot of Thai food lately and
I must say that I am very impressed with those people.

LOL!

 

[zumbo]

I will have to disagree. It is the design not the build quality. Gene certainly did not have an issue with it.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/amplifiers/emotiva-xpa-2/xpa-2-measurements

Okay.

So, poor design.

Even worse. That can't be fixed under warranty.

 

[Nomo]

Yamaha is made in Malaysia.

My Adcom was made in Thailand.

Oh, thank goodness,
For a second I thought they might be made over seas.


Wait a second, We are talking about Thailand, Rhode Island and Malaysia, New Hampshire right?

 

[zumbo]

Oh, thank goodness,
For a second I thought they might be made over seas.


Wait a second, We are talking about Thailand, Rhode Island and Malaysia, New Hampshire right?

Wait. You didn't think Yamaha was an American company, did you?

Denon?

As for Adcom 5503 and Rotel 993, they are higher quality options. Listed for that fact. OP asked for future upgrades.

As far as I can find, any comparable power amp is an upgrade from Emo.

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Don't mind these other guys who don't know how to keep a thread on track.
There mommas didn't raise them right.

You hush and save your money I need an amp

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Wait. You didn't think Yamaha was an American company, did you?

Denon?

As for Adcom 5503 and Rotel 993, they are higher quality options. Listed for that fact. OP asked for future upgrades.

As far as I can find, any comparable power amp is an upgrade from Emo.

An upgrade how? Do you actually think you are going to hear a difference? I would love to put some money on that!

 

[zumbo]

An upgrade how? Do you actually think you are going to hear a difference? I would love to put some money on that!

Actually, I think distortion is the audiophile choice.

Tubes are usually .1%.

Problem is, a tube amp clipping is presented differently to the speaker than a SS amp.

Don't ask me how. One just blows tweets, and the other doesn't.

 

[zumbo]

As far as I can find, any comparable power amp is an upgrade from Emo.

An upgrade how? Do you actually think you are going to hear a difference? I would love to put some money on that!

Been almost 2 1/2 hours since I posted the above reply, and yet nothing other than this?

You guys are slipping.

 

[ougrad02]

Well it was an interesting thread though. To me anyway. Just wanted to know if it was safe to place the amp on the subwoofer and look at all i got

 

[jeffsg4mac]

Been almost 2 1/2 hours since I posted the above reply, and yet nothing other than this?

You guys are slipping.

I was watching a movie

Really if that is the best you can do after I posted the link to Gene's review which says it all then you are the one slipping my friend. The fact of the matter is Emotiva amps are well built, well designed, and all indications are they sound and perform as good as anything else on the market, and they beat up on quite a few of them. One can not argue with facts and those are the facts.