AMD 6990 and GeForce GTX 590 to be released in March.

its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
I hope you have a 2560x1600 display (or multiple displays) to take advantage of that 580 :/
 
T

Todesengel

Audioholic Intern
Running at 1080p on my LG 46" LED. Believe it or not on some games like Far Cry 2, Crysis and Metro 2033 you still hit some hitches (although the average FPS remains high) when everything is maxed out. Which is disheartening, as I thought the GTX 580 would handle it and is mostly the reason for me wanting to upgrade. I figured I might as well grab one of these new cards that should last me a while and I can cover most of the investment by selling my GTX 580.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Yeah, even with the new dual cards I'm sure there will be parts of the games where the fps drops to 10-20 or whatever. Pretty lame. I only play older games so I don't worry about keeping up with all the new stuff though :)
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
Wow, those cards are just ridiculous... I just bought a 5770 to replace my current 8600 GTS, but I don't game so I don't need a card like that, plus I don't wanna have to upgrade my power supply either.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Well, a 5770 is pretty overkill if you aren't playing any games...the 5770 is a capable card at normal resolutions and settings :)
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
AMD 6990 to launch Tuesday:
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/03/02/amds-6990-to-launch/

GeForce GTX 590 to launch later in the month:

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/nvidia_launch_dual-gpu_geforce_gtx_590_next_month

I recently purchased a GTX 580 and am already thinking about upgrading. I just hope I will be able to plug these bad boys directly into the wall (haha) as they are both going draw an insane amount of power.
Your wasting your money......a GTX580 is capable of playing any game at 1080p resolution and never go below 60FPS. I don't know what the rest of your PC includes but I would put my money on a bottleneck in the CPU department. You really need a highly clocked CPU to keep up with most games these days.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Here are some benchmarks from anandtech - test setup was an i7 920 @ 3.33 ghz:



 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
Here are some benchmarks from anandtech - test setup was an i7 920 @ 3.33 ghz:



Yes that actually proves my point. :)

Look at the scaling from single 580 to 2x 580's. We all know how well the 4 and 5 series Nvidia cards scale (extremely well) but in those graphs they are not scaling out to their true potential. I really wish these reviews would also include "GPU Utilization" as more often than not there is a bottleneck in the system and the GPU isn't being fed data fast enough to process, which slows down the whole rendering process.

3.33GHz is nowhere near high enough of a clock to keep 2 high end graphics cards fully saturated.

These are just things I have noticed in the last few years......
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Well you did say "a GTX580 is capable of playing any game at 1080p resolution and never go below 60FPS," and that's clearly not true for all games :D

An i7 920 at 3.33 ghz is pretty damn good - it's unreasonable to expect people to clock up to 4ghz+ or buy a 980x or what have you, but you are probably right. I'd have to see gpu utilization tests like you said though.

About multi gpu scaling - I would guess that the 580s and higher end ATI cards probably scale much better at higher resolutions (which is what people should be playing at with cards like these) but I didn't bother to check any benchmarks, but in some games they don't scale well at all for some reason.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
Well, a 5770 is pretty overkill if you aren't playing any games...the 5770 is a capable card at normal resolutions and settings :)
I have a core i7 920, 9 gigs of ram, and dual 1080p monitors, so I often run fullscreen live ota tv one one monitor while I work on the other monitor, and don't want any choppyness, plus I want the gpu power for the ati stream when I'm transcoding blu ray rips, the card I have now does pretty good with it's cuda, but I want a much better gpu, plus if I do decide to use my pc for gaming I know I'll have a capable card.

This is the card I got: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102873&cm_re=sapphire_5770-_-14-102-873-_-Product
 
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its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Understandable. You've got a pretty nice machine :)

I have an amd phenom II X4 920, 8 GB RAM, and a sapphire 5850...which is very overkill for counterstrike lol D:
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
Well you did say "a GTX580 is capable of playing any game at 1080p resolution and never go below 60FPS," and that's clearly not true for all games :D
Well that statement was predicated on the CPU clock speed argument, which you understand I'm sure. :)
An i7 920 at 3.33 ghz is pretty damn good - it's unreasonable to expect people to clock up to 4ghz+ or buy a 980x or what have you, but you are probably right. I'd have to see gpu utilization tests like you said though.

About multi gpu scaling - I would guess that the 580s and higher end ATI cards probably scale much better at higher resolutions (which is what people should be playing at with cards like these) but I didn't bother to check any benchmarks, but in some games they don't scale well at all for some reason.
An i7 920@3.33 Ghz really isn't that impressive and you won't see the CPU bottleneck go away until 3.8Ghz and upwards IMO. This is just information that I have gleaned from a lot of benchmarking on my part and testing different hardware and overclock combination's. I run my workstation 24/7 at 4Ghz (i7 860) and when I do benchmarking and such I bump it to the max of 4.5Hhz or 4.6Ghz, which is bordering on unstable.....I noticed that I didn't see all that much of an improvement with 2x 5850's at stock clocks on my i7 860 (2.66Ghz I think), and when I started bumping the frequencies up I did benchmarks incrementally and noticed a huge increase once I got around 4Ghz+.

I agree that an overclock above 3.5Ghz for any CPU is outside of the norm, but we are talking about high end PC gaming, which doesn't fit into the "normal" category to begin with, so high overclocks become fairly common in this sector. Again this is all my opinion and what I have observed in my many, many, many years of internet geekdom.

Oh on a side note Crysis 2 is pretty darn GPU intensive and I now find myself looking for another 5850.....
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
I'd say it's still pretty impressive when compared to most other processors, but if I was to build a new gaming machine, it'd have to be with a sandy bridge platform right now:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-review-intel-core-i7-2600k-i5-2500k-core-i3-2100-tested/20
We will see how well they overclock.....:)

*EDIT*
Ahh just looked at the review a little more and they OC VERY nicely! But unfortunately you need to buy a "K" series chip to overclock at all. This is a huge bummer as in the past you could take an extremely cheap CPU that runs a stock speed below 2Ghz and clock it past 3Ghz, turning a modest CPU into a high performance one. :)
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
True, but the K series chips aren't all that much more expensive, and depending on where you live you can get pretty good deals - I can get a 2500k at microcenter for $195 or a 2600k for $304 (prices after tax) :D
 
krzywica

krzywica

Audioholic Samurai
True, but the K series chips aren't all that much more expensive, and depending on where you live you can get pretty good deals - I can get a 2500k at microcenter for $195 or a 2600k for $304 (prices after tax) :D
Well thats actually a pretty good deal then....not worth someone like me upgrading though as I would have to replace my motherboard as well for only a marginal performance increase. I'm waiting for the 8 and 12 core CPU's from Intel.....unless Bulldozer pulls a fast one on all of us. :)
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
Yeah, changing platforms when you have a more than capable machine on a recent platform would not be so smart :D I'm really eager to see legit bulldozer benchmarks too though.
 

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