"Golden Ear Triton Spaker Review by S&V mag

[3db]

I'm posting this link because of the outo of the norm driver shapes used in this speaker. What are the advantages/disadvantages to a driver' shapes? S7V say the graph is fairly smooth but I don't see it as being smooth at all.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/audio/2011/01/test-report-goldenear-technology-triton-two-tower-speakers

 

[cschang]

Interesting...the on axis graph looks pretty good, but an off axis graph would nice to have.

As for drivers shapes, I know that shape, size, cone depth, etc. all affect dispersion characteristics.

What's interesting is that the speaker is rated at 90db sensitivity, but the CEA2010 numbers for the bass don't really come close to that. So a distortion vs FR graph like they do at Soundstage would be pretty interesting.

 

[emorphien]

There was a discussion about using woofers of that general shape here recently and the consensus seemed to be there's not much concern of drawbacks with them but I'm no expert.

 

[TLS Guy]

I'm posting this link because of the outo of the norm driver shapes used in this speaker. What are the advantages/disadvantages to a driver' shapes? S7V say the graph is fairly smooth but I don't see it as being smooth at all.

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/audio/2011/01/test-report-goldenear-technology-triton-two-tower-speakers

An elliptical driver allows you to use a narrow fronted cabinet. The KEF B 139 appeared in 1959 and was produced until the late eighties. It is one of my all time favorite drivers.

The woofers in those Triton's I suspect are the Tang Band knock offs, which are not nearly as good, and do not model as well as the B 139. Oh, for the Golden Age of British Audio. There has never been a time like it.

 

[GranteedEV]

I'd presume it'd be fine for just a woofer crossed low. I would presume that it doesn't sound as great once you get into beaming frequencies.

 

[rramacha]

Any suggestions

Hello

I am thinking about buying these. If any one has it, I would like to hear their views. My system Oppo 93, Marantz AV8003 and Sherbourn 7/2100 Amp

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Frequency response (at 2 meters)30 Hz to 20 kHz ±3.2 dB

As far as on-axis FR is concerned, that looks better than most tower speakers out there.

It isn't +/- 1dB like the Revel Salon 2, but then again it isn't $22K.

And most speakers, even those over $10K, cannot do 30Hz @ -3dB from 90dB @ 2 meters (i.e. B&W 800D, Martin Logan, Magnepan, etc.).

I'm sure there will be GoldenEar bashers like DefTech bashers, but I think they will sound great. Sandy Gross knows how to make speakers for the middle-class folks.

 

[3db]

Interesting...the on axis graph looks pretty good, but an off axis graph would nice to have.

As for drivers shapes, I know that shape, size, cone depth, etc. all affect dispersion characteristics.

What's interesting is that the speaker is rated at 90db sensitivity, but the CEA2010 numbers for the bass don't really come close to that. So a distortion vs FR graph like they do at Soundstage would be pretty interesting.

I see quite a few dips in this graph compared to that of PSB"s T45 so I'm wondering how it can be said it has a good resposne.

http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/speakers/psb_image_t45/

I know the Golden Ear definately beats the PSB in bass output.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I see quite a few dips in this graph compared to that of PSB"s T45 so I'm wondering how it can be said it has a good resposne.

http://www.soundstagemagazine.com/measurements/speakers/psb_image_t45/

I know the Golden Ear definately beats the PSB in bass output.

At about 15kHz, the PSB is about -3dB (on-axis).
At about 39Hz, the PSB is @ -3dB (on-axis).
From about 40Hz - 13kHz, the PSB is @ +/-2dB.

At about 17kHz, the Triton is about +3.2dB.
At about 30Hz, the Triton is about -3dB
From about 40Hz - 15kHz, the Triton is about +/-2dB.

So even if the PSB is "better", it doesn't look that much better - at least not on-axis since we don't know what the Triton looks like off-axis.

 

[3db]

At about 15kHz, the PSB is about -3dB (on-axis).
At about 39Hz, the PSB is @ -3dB (on-axis).
From about 40Hz - 13kHz, the PSB is @ +/-2dB.

At about 17kHz, the Triton is about +3.2dB.
At about 30Hz, the Triton is about -3dB
From about 40Hz - 15kHz, the Triton is about +/-2dB.

So even if the PSB is "better", it doesn't look that much better - at least not on-axis since we don't know what the Triton looks like off-axis.

I guess thats the way the graph is drawn at S & V mag. I wish grid lines were put on graphs to more easily read them. Its frequency response isn't as bad as I initially thought. What I thought to be 3db was only 2db. Thanks for making me double check.

I'm still curious about their off axes considering the shape of the driver and their folded ribbon tweeter design.

 

[cschang]

I guess thats the way the graph is drawn at S & V mag. I wish grid lines were put on graphs to more easily read them. Its frequency response isn't as bad as I initially thought. What I thought to be 3db was only 2db. Thanks for making me double check.

I'm still curious about their off axes considering the shape of the driver and their folded ribbon tweeter design.

It is difficult, at best, to compare measurements of two different speakers that were measured by different people and different equipment.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I prefer HTM over S&V since HTM at least does a 5-point average of on-axis and +/-15 degrees off-axis.

S&V only does the on-axis response.

I think S&V is completely worthless anymore. I only subscribe to HTM.

And when it comes to AVR, Pre-pro, and amps, HTM measures FR, THD, SNR, & Crosstalk.

S&V sucks.

 

[3db]

I prefer HTM over S&V since HTM at least does a 5-point average of on-axis and +/-15 degrees off-axis.

S&V only does the on-axis response.

I think S&V is completely worthless anymore. I only subscribe to HTM.

And when it comes to AVR, Pre-pro, and amps, HTM measures FR, THD, SNR, & Crosstalk.

S&V sucks.

Please. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!!

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Please. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel!!

Yeah, I feel a lot of negativity right now. I'm in one of my mood swings.

 

[rramacha]

Help Needed

Hello All

I was almost convinced to get Golden ears Triton for my HT setup and now thinking about holding back till Aperion Verus Grand comes out. I am leaning towards them hoping they may do well with my Marantz AV8003 set up. I am hoping it may go seeing that they are a Marantz dealer themselves. Any suggestions/thoughts please?

 

[3db]

Hello All

I was almost convinced to get Golden ears Triton for my HT setup and now thinking about holding back till Aperion Verus Grand comes out. I am leaning towards them hoping they may do well with my Marantz AV8003 set up. I am hoping it may go seeing that they are a Marantz dealer themselves. Any suggestions/thoughts please?

Youn need to audition for yourself as hearing is subjective. No one hears with your ears I you know what I mean.

 

[ski2xblack]

I was almost convinced to get Golden ears Triton for my HT setup and now thinking about holding back till Aperion Verus Grand comes out. I am leaning towards them hoping they may do well with my Marantz AV8003 set up. I am hoping it may go seeing that they are a Marantz dealer themselves. Any suggestions/thoughts please?

Youn need to audition for yourself as hearing is subjective. No one hears with your ears I you know what I mean.

rramacha, this is true, you have to listen with your own ears. The problem is that the GE's are sold via brick and mortar stores, and the Aperions are internet direct, complicating matters.

From another review I saw, these new GE speakers are sonically similar to other Sandy Gross designs (Def Tech Mythos ST and the larger Super Towers specifically, which are both more expensive than the Golden Ears by the way), so if you like those, you would probably like the GE's. That reveiwer had the Aperions in just prior to the GE's, and specifically mentioned them as a worthy direct competitor. Gleaning from that article, he liked the aesthetics and lower price of the Aperions, but they need sub augmentation; he liked the imaging prowess of the GE's and their built in subs give deeper extension. That particular reviewer seemed to prefer the GE's overall, claiming they are among the best speakers available for <$5K.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

The Triton is a monopole speaker with a built-in powered subwoofer, like the Def Tech Mythos.

The Def Tech Bipolar speakers are different (since they are bipole speakers).

If you use subwoofer + speaker, then you will get a full sound from the Aperions (or PSB or other non-full range speakers).

If you don't use a subwoofer for some reason, then the Triton or DefTech Bipolar speakers will sound fuller.

But you should audition all speakers before you buy them.

 

[rramacha]

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Hello All

Thanks for the thoughts. I do use a subwoofer. I was also leaning running the Left Right full range and using my SPL800R Sub to just handle the rest.

My biggest concern is with GE's center channel. I am not very sure if they are as good as Grand Verus.

Thanks

 

[AVRat]

I'd skip the GEs just due to their limited center channel product. You're already considering a dual Empire sub setup, so it would be silly not to use them to supplement the L/Rs low-end.