HDMI In, Component Out....

[DuluthMN]

OK,

So I have read so many post on here that instead of settleing for the cheapest unit that best buy has for sale, I have one more question. Is the following scerino possible:

Inputs:

PS3- HDMI to HDMI Input on AV Receiver
DVR- HDMI to HDMI Input on AV Receiver
Wii- Component to Component on AV Receiver

Output

AV Receiver- Component on AV Receiver to Component on Mitsubishi. Mitsibishi does not have HDMI Connection.

Is this possible?

 

[j_garcia]

No, it isn't due to HDCP (copy protection).

 

[DuluthMN]

No, it isn't due to HDCP (copy protection).

I would thank you, but I have no idea what you just said...

 

[j_garcia]

HDCP does not allow copying permitted by fair use laws. The system is meant to stop HDCP-encrypted content from being played on devices that do not support HDCP or which have been modified to copy HDCP content.[2][3] Before sending data, a transmitting device checks that the receiver is authorized to receive it. If so, the transmitter encrypts the data to prevent eavesdropping as it flows to the receiver.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

The short answer is, it isn't allowed to prevent you from making perfect digital copies of movies.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I would thank you, but I have no idea what you just said...

HDCP - Prohibits digital video to analog conversion as in HDMI to component signal.
Other way around - is ok.

 

[cerwinmad]

yep, been here, ended up buying a new tv, due to my HD crt having no HDMI, and thus unable to display HD content frommy PVR, even though the PVR had hd component out.

 

[DuluthMN]

HDCP - Prohibits digital video to analog conversion as in HDMI to component signal.
Other way around - is ok.

I just do not get it, I am not going to be copying movies. My problem is that my Mitsibishi 1080p rear projection tv does not have an hdmi input. I think that I may have found a receiver that will work... yAMAHA RX- V365

 

[BMXTRIX]

Does the Mits. have a DVI input? It would suprise me if it did not.

On the other hand, you can feed from a cable box and from the PS3 via component video. Component video supports HD resolutions and is a perfectly good way to get the signal to your TV.

 

[BMXTRIX]

I just do not get it, I am not going to be copying movies. My problem is that my Mitsibishi 1080p rear projection tv does not have an hdmi input. I think that I may have found a receiver that will work... yAMAHA RX- V365

If your intent is to hook up HDMI to your receiver, then connect only component to your Mits. then forget it. NO MANUFACTURER DOES THIS!

HDMI prohibits what you are asking to do, so forget it.

 

[j_garcia]

I just do not get it, I am not going to be copying movies.

The problem is not whether or not you going to copy movies, but whether or not you are able to, because other people WOULD.

My former TV had DVI and it worked fine like BMXTRIX said, as long as it is HDCP compliant.

There is no receiver on the market that will do this.

 

[s162216]

You could use a HDFury as apparently (I have no experience with using one as I don't even have a single thing that has HDMI) these will strip the HDCP off and allow output as component.

http://www.hdfury.com/

They are a bit pricey though

 

[Nestor]

OK,

So I have read so many post on here that instead of settleing for the cheapest unit that best buy has for sale, I have one more question. Is the following scerino possible:

Inputs:

PS3- HDMI to HDMI Input on AV Receiver
DVR- HDMI to HDMI Input on AV Receiver
Wii- Component to Component on AV Receiver

Output

AV Receiver- Component on AV Receiver to Component on Mitsubishi. Mitsibishi does not have HDMI Connection.

Is this possible?

If your Mitsubishi isn't HDCP compliant, you can still use component out if you have component-out (or less) available on each of your external components. Your AVR should feed everything into component-out to the TV.

 

[j_garcia]

If your Mitsubishi isn't HDCP compliant, you can still use component out if you have component-out (or less) available on each of your external components. Your AVR should feed everything into component-out to the TV.

If it doesn't have HDMI, it is highly unlikely that it does 1080p anyway, which would likely be the most compelling reason to want HDMI here. If it is only 1080i, then feeding component from all your devices should be perfectly fine as mentioned above.

 

[markw]

To answer your initial post...

Simply put, many receivers UP convert from component TO HDMI but I've never seen a receiver that DOWN converts FROM HDMI to component.

 

[Nestor]

If it doesn't have HDMI, it is highly unlikely that it does 1080p anyway, which would likely be the most compelling reason to want HDMI here. If it is only 1080i, then feeding component from all your devices should be perfectly fine as mentioned above.

Yet another alternative is an HDMI to DVI adapter for the monitor cable, providing the TV is HDCP compliant.

 

[emorphien]

Draconian anti-copy protection schemes are always good at preventing law abiding citizens from doing reasonable things, aren't they?

 

[DuluthMN]

Mitsibishi WS-55315 is the brand of tv. So let me make sue I have this right. If I go with the Yamaha AVR that I mentioned, I can run the following:

1. Wii Component HD Video/Audio Cable to AVR Component In.
2. PS3 Component HD Video Only Cable to AVR Component In.
(Toslink Optical for Audio)
3. DVR Component HD Video Only Cable to AVR Component In.
(Toslink Optical for Audio)

4. AVR Component Out HD Video Only Cable to Component In on TV.


Is this correct? Will this allow me to view everything in 1080P while being able to use my surround sound for everything?

I realize the tv does not have HDMI, but the unit has a great picture...

Thanks again for the input, I'm being a junkie I'm afraid...

 

[emorphien]

If the only thing you use the Wii and PS3 for are games then they will work. The PS3 won't send 1080p high def out over component if watching a BluRay because of HDCP I believe. Not sure if a DVR uses HDCP or not, I would assume so and as a result you'd run in to the same problem.

After a quick google search it looks like your TV has a DVI input with HDCP support so you could connect all your devices to the receiver via HDMI, then run an HDMI cable to your TV with a DVI adapter (or buy an HDMI to DVI cable, I have one I bought on Monoprice). This is what I'd do.

 

[DuluthMN]

If the only thing you use the Wii and PS3 for are games then they will work. The PS3 won't send 1080p high def out over component if watching a BluRay because of HDCP I believe. Not sure if a DVR uses HDCP or not, I would assume so and as a result you'd run in to the same problem.

After a quick google search it looks like your TV has a DVI input with HDCP support so you could connect all your devices to the receiver via HDMI, then run an HDMI cable to your TV with a DVI adapter (or buy an HDMI to DVI cable, I have one I bought on Monoprice). This is what I'd do.

Awesome News, I few weeks ago a friend of mine gave me a thick blue cable that is HDMI on one side (PS3) and goes to the DVI input on TV!!! So are you saying that I can do the following:

Wii Component Video/Audio to AVR Component In
PS3 HDMI Out to AVR HDMI In
(Toslink Optical Cable)
Dish Receiver HDMI Out to AVR HDMI In
(Toslink Optical Cable)

AVR HDMI Out to TV DVI In

Is this the correct route? Please advise on HDMI (2) Cables to buy and Wii Component (1) Cable to buy? Also, I now do not need a receiver with so many Component In's, so what would you all recommend for under $200? My expectations are not that high, I'm currently running a Yamaha HTR-5630 (210 Watt) and I'm very happy with the sound.

 

[j_garcia]

Awesome News, I few weeks ago a friend of mine gave me a thick blue cable that is HDMI on one side (PS3) and goes to the DVI input on TV!!! So are you saying that I can do the following:

Wii Component Video/Audio to AVR Component In
PS3 HDMI Out to AVR HDMI In
(Toslink Optical Cable)
Dish Receiver HDMI Out to AVR HDMI In
(Toslink Optical Cable)

AVR HDMI Out to TV DVI In

Is this the correct route? Please advise on HDMI (2) Cables to buy and Wii Component (1) Cable to buy? Also, I now do not need a receiver with so many Component In's, so what would you all recommend for under $200? My expectations are not that high, I'm currently running a Yamaha HTR-5630 (210 Watt) and I'm very happy with the sound.

If you are saying you have connected devices to the TV already via DVI and they work, then yes this will work.