The new epik legend

[Dr. Parthipan]

I'm starting this thread since there doesn't seem to be one dedicated to this new model.
Has anyone bought it and played with it? can you comment on its design? would it reach the claimed 20hz extension?

 

[GranteedEV]

In an anechoic chamber, I highly doubt it would reach 20hz.
In a small room, it will reach 20hz.
In a moderate sized room, one will likely reach 20hz, and two certainly will.
In a large sized room, you're probably better off going with the Epik Empire or two or four.

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

So theres no chance of it going any lower than 20hz then?

 

[GranteedEV]

So theres no chance of it going any lower than 20hz then?

in a small room, you may get down to 17hz or so

for true subsonics without room gain factor, you gotta build an LLT

 

[Ron Temple]

It's a sealed design and has the same frequency response as the Empire, 20-200hz +/- 3.5dbs. In an anecohic chamber most sealed designs dropoff gradually from about 50hz @ 12db/octave. That's one of the reasons, it's got such good midbass response. Anyway, the Legend, in room, will play like the Empire with less output. Most folks, with an Empire, are getting a flatish response to at least 20hz, some to 15hz. It's room dependent. As GranteedEV said, it will depend largely on your room size. If smallish, you should get a similar response to an Empire though with 6dbs less output. In a large room, with little or no room gain your < 30hz response is anyone's guess. It will be there, but will it be useable? It's a nice sub. 2 of them. colocated, are about equal to an Empire and will smooth out the bass response, though if you separate them, them Empire will still have more output.

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

So from outside the house from how far away would you hear the 20hz rumble?
Would the 20hz tone be louder outside if the room inside was smaller due to room gain?

 

[Ron Temple]

So from outside the house from how far away would you hear the 20hz rumble?
Would the 20hz tone be louder outside if the room inside was smaller due to room gain?

Depends on your house. You'd have to check yourself. 20hz is right at the bottom of audibility and loud playback pressurizes the room and shakes things, depending, but isn't unpleasantly loud. There is very little HT content that contains 20hz or lower signal that doesn't also include very loud content in the 40-80hz range. This is very audible in and outside your space if your room isn't well insulated. Again, if you want to know how it sounds outside, then you'll have to check yourself. The more gain you have, the louder the < 35hz stuff is. With a sealed sub, that gain is to get you to a flat response (or slightly rising). With a ported sub that gain can overwhelm the midbass and needs to be eq'd toward flat for the sub to sound it's best, subjectively.

 

[j_garcia]

So from outside the house from how far away would you hear the 20hz rumble?
Would the 20hz tone be louder outside if the room inside was smaller due to room gain?

If you were standing outside the room with the door open you might hear 20Hz, but with doors and windows closed, you aren't going to hear it outside.

20Hz may end up being lound in an adjacent room and the vibrations may also carry into other rooms in the house yes, but they won't be stronger than in the room with the sub. The vibration you get from the lowest frequencies is not as dramatic with a sealed sub, as Ron mentioned. In room, I am sure the Legend with hit 20Hz, but it may not have the same tactile feel as a comparable vented sub.

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

would this subwoofer be suitable for music though? Or is it more for heavy impact home theatre use?

 

[jamie2112]

would this subwoofer be suitable for music though? Or is it more for heavy impact home theatre use?

The Epik's are suitable to ANY thing that you throw at them.Sealed is more for music and ported is more for HT use. That being said some people believe the it to be the other way around.But an answer for your question is yes,the sub is great for music and HT.......

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

what about the distortion on the Legend? and is there a better suubwoofer out there? what would a better one do that the legend cant except go louder and lower?

 

[Warpdrv]

There is always a better sub out there.... How much money you want to spend...?

What size is the room ?

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

the room is about 4m by 4m. How large can the legend work in?

 

[GranteedEV]

what about the distortion on the Legend? and is there a better suubwoofer out there? what would a better one do that the legend cant except go louder and lower?

Sounds like you want a Rythmik F15

 

[j_garcia]

Sounds like you want a Rythmik F15

Or an Empire

I have not heard the Legend, but I if it is anything like the Empire, it really shines with music. Movies certainly do not suffer however If music is the priority, then I'd say it is a very good choice.

Nothing else at the price point of the Legend is going to have the same amount of output IMO.

 

[shadyJ]

Nothing else at the price point of the Legend is going to have the same amount of output IMO.

I recall reading a comparison between the Legend and PB10 from someone who claimed to own both who said the PB10 had greater output capability than the Legend. Those are equally priced at the moment, although the PB10 is being discontinued. If you can spend $50 more you can get the Outlaw Audio LFM-1 Plus or Hsu Research VTF2, I would bet either of those would offer more output than the Legend, especially around their tuning points.

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

I have also looked at the Rythmik audio F15 subwoofer. My impression from reading about it was that it wouldn't go as low and perhaps was not as loud either, but that its main selling point is accuracy. So for music, what would give the more higher quality sound between the Legend and the F15?

 

[KEW]

When I called rythmik for a recommendation for a music sub, they suggested a pair of F12G's over the F15 series or the normal F12 models. You should call them to discuss before you buy.
I made it very clear that I was interested in articulation and SQ.

 

[Dr. Parthipan]

They are not going to recommend any other subwoofer are they? There will be always be a bias if you call a manufacturer.

 

[Matt34]

Does Rythmik or Epik ship overseas?