Hey stereo guys! How do movies sound?

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titzlaroo

Audioholic Intern
I'm not too interested in surround sound, so I was thinking of going with a couple floor standers or a 2.1. I was going to go with your standard A/V device, but just got my mind blown with this: Peachtree Audio/Nova. I listened to Nova with the ERA speakers below and they sounded phenomenal. Had a decent amount of bass kicking for their size.

It's mainly a system for music, but I'm going to use it for video, also.

Here's my question: Do the movies still sound good with all the dialogue channeled to the 2 speakers and not a center?

Here's what I'm currently looking at as far as speakers go:

Vandersteen / Model 1C

ERA / D5

or perhaps

B & W / 686

THANKS!
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
Well, a stereo pair which images well and has a big soundstage will work fine for movies, although it won't have the deep bass of a true sub.

That DAC..however... looks like a waste of money.
 
its phillip

its phillip

Audioholic Ninja
it's an integrated amp, not just a dac. i do think it's overpriced though.

anyway, movies sound fine to me with my stereo setups
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

Audioholic Slumlord
But it's The Stereophile Product of The Year 2009 - It must be good :rolleyes:
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
But it's The Stereophile Product of The Year 2009 - It must be good :rolleyes:
Definitely agree! It's near double the price, so it has to run circles around something like an XDA-1 paired with UPA-1 Monoblocks! The build quality must be flawless, as it's available in your choice of Piano Black, Rosewood, and Cherry.
 
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oppman99

Senior Audioholic
I've auditioned the Nova and I can't say it overly impressed me. It did some things very well though. I guess I expected more from it after all the hype. This hobby is all about personal preference though. The gear I love may drive someone else crazy.

Back on the thread topic....If you have good speakers and the main listening position is between them, they should sound just fine for movies. I think I'd still want a sub paired with them. I've run a phantom center channel in the past and it worked well for the main listening seat. The localization when sitting off center drove me nuts though. I'd say go for it and you can always add a center and/or surrounds later if you aren't satisfied.
 
JohnA

JohnA

Audioholic Chief
I have the Vandersteens 1C in a stereo set up...

Movies sound great, they lack some low bass which would be picked up by a sub anyways.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I prefer surround for movies, but I do have a stereo setup also and it does a good job as well. A quality system that is well thought out and properly setup sounds good no matter what.
 
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Boerd

Full Audioholic
I'm not too interested in surround sound, so I was thinking of going with a couple floor standers or a 2.1. I was going to go with your standard A/V device, but just got my mind blown with this: Peachtree Audio/Nova. I listened to Nova with the ERA speakers below and they sounded phenomenal. Had a decent amount of bass kicking for their size.

It's mainly a system for music, but I'm going to use it for video, also.

Here's my question: Do the movies still sound good with all the dialogue channeled to the 2 speakers and not a center?

Here's what I'm currently looking at as far as speakers go:

Vandersteen / Model 1C

ERA / D5

or perhaps

B & W / 686

THANKS!
Movies sound excellent on my 2.2 system - I can't care less for surround sound - my 2c.
For the same money you get better sound in a 2.1 than in a surround just because you can afford better quality buying less speakers (one case where less is more so to say)
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
Movies sound excellent on my 2.2 system - I can't care less for surround sound - my 2c.
For the same money you get better sound in a 2.1 than in a surround just because you can afford better quality buying less speakers (one case where less is more so to say)
Or just go cheap on the surrounds and the impact to the mains is minimal.
 
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InTheIndustry

Senior Audioholic
I think members on here who have no reference point or experience with a product someone asks about should kindly, for the benefit of truly helping people who specifically ask for it, not post their unsubstantiated opinions. Some of you have an experience factor of ZERO with certain products and yet feel qualified or compelled for some unknown reason to speak up with an opinion based on what? A webpage? What purpose could that possibly serve?

Free speech is a great thing, but when you speak without having a clue as to what you're speaking about it makes you sound like an idiot.

- As to the OP's question, the Peachtree audio products are very unique & excellent, class leading performers, but probably not for what you're wanting to do. The Peachtree integrated amps were specifically engineered & designed to be used in conjunction with PC or IP based music sources. I had a rep sample of the original Decco for a few weeks and thought it was perfect for what they designed it to do. We use Sonos to stream music in my home and showroom and we have all sorts of different amps and receivers to power these zones and switch them out for testing different ideas and concepts we come up with. I also do this to test the quality of different speakers, amps, etc.

In a whole house audio setup, I wouldn't spend the money on a bunch of Deccos or Novas to power my zones. In our setup (which includes a lot of upper end & entry level in-ceiling pieces) I couldn't hear or feel (bass) an appreciable difference between the Decco and a Parasound ZAMP, Onkyo receiver, or a self powered Sonos unit. This was due to the limited physics of what a whole house audio setup is designed to do.

Where the Decco, and I'm sure Nova, shines is in 2 channel stereo from a conventional L/R config using a digital source like a SONOS, AppleTV, your PC, Squeezebox, etc. (w/ or w/out sub doesn't matter). Signalpath owns both ERA & Peachtree so the rep gave me a pair of ERA D5 to try with it. This combination was really impressive from both SONOS & my PC. The quality of music was noticeably different than out of a traditional Stereo receiver in this application. We tried different speakers (Totem Arrow, PhaseTech PC-1.5, and BG Z1) and it was over all a really impressive rig - as it should be given the units price & manufacturer promise of quality. When I do a nicer 2 channel system in my office I'll certainly be using one but keep in mind..... I use an IP based source almost exclusively. The Decco/Nova units are really unique to look at as well as have excellent feel, fit, and finish which is always a concern from a small/new company.

For movies & TV out of a BluRay or CD player or Cable/Sat box, a good integrated amp from NAD or Parasound will be less expensive and more than capable of making a pair of D5s or whatever speaker you choose to go with sing. With speakers like that, though, I would recommend staying away from entry level A/V receivers from an Onkyo or Pioneer or whomever.

Hope this helps!
 
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titzlaroo

Audioholic Intern
Thanks for all the input guys. I'm not stuck on the Peachtree or just an integrated (stereo) amp for that matter. I'm still trying to decide, and my research was thrown off a bit with this new information when I walked into an audio store. The guy was very helpful and knowledgable.

With speakers like that, though, I would recommend staying away from entry level A/V receivers from an Onkyo or Pioneer or whomever.
In a previous post I was given this helpful option: Marantz SR5004. Just wondering if you think it falls into the same category as brands you mentioned? I was going to pair it with some less expensive speakers and a sub, but do you think it would work well with the speakers I mentioned in my original post?
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
In a previous post I was given this helpful option: Marantz SR5004. Just wondering if you think it falls into the same category as brands you mentioned? I was going to pair it with some less expensive speakers and a sub, but do you think it would work well with the speakers I mentioned in my original post?
If you aren't going to do surround, then you don't need a surround receiver. There's no point in buying something that has capabilities you don't intend to use. A stereo receiver or integrated amp will do you fine. The lowest end Marantz units are still quite good compared to many others on the market, however a stereo receiver or integrated amp will typically be able to handle a more difficult load compared to a comparably priced receiver.
 
sholling

sholling

Audioholic Ninja
Here are the less expensive options I'm looking to possibly pair a sub with:

Ascend Accoustics: Sierra-1's

Usher: S-520's

Boston Acoustics: VS-240's
I've owned the Ushers and currently own the Sierra-1s. The S-520 is an excellent $400/pr speaker as long as you respect its limitations. Played loudly without a sub could lead to bottoming out the woofer, and max power handling is only 75w.

The Usher S-520 really competes with Ascend's CBM-170SE and not the higher end Sierra-1. I don't own the 170s but I do own a pair of scaled up CMT-340SE (a 170SE with 2 woofers) and they are quite good for the money, however the Sierra-1 is a nice step up. The level of detail and the imaging qualities are well worth the extra money over the S-520. If you need to save some money I believe that Ascend still has some re-certified Sierra-1s in stock. These are speakers that were used as loaners while customers waited for out of stock finishes and are like new and there are only limited quantities.

Coming out next is the Sierra-1 NrT which has an upgraded tweeter and new crossover. I'll be listening to those tomorrow and can let you know how they sound. DYI kit's to upgrade the existing speakers to NrT will be available next month.
 
zieglj01

zieglj01

Audioholic Spartan
Hello titzlarro,

The Boston VS240 is a solid speaker. Very easy to crossover to a
subwoofer. They have good detail, definition and depth. To me -
I rate the midrange and treble above the NHT Classic Two and the
Focal 705V speaker. Your ears will not get tired - Boston did some
serious work on the VS series speakers. They can take the power.
I drive them with a Marantz 100 watt receiver - that is rated 125
watts at 6 ohms.
Home Theater Magazine rated them a top pick.
 
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washburn

washburn

Audioholic
I am more of an Audio guy than a video guy...I only have a 2.1 system, and with my Music Hall amp, Onix Ref-1 mains and Onix x-sub, Movies sound relaly good for my needs. Main thing, MUSIC is heavenly with that combo, but movies can shake the house when I want them to, also.
 
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