Iron Man 2 Blu-ray Review

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PearlcorderS701

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The second one is hands down a better flick than the first one from a FUN/kick-a$$ perspective.:D

The DTS-HD MA sound on the second one is 100% better than the first one too.

And finding out more about Tony Starks' father + discovering the new Element + Black Widow babe + War Machine + the Hammer of THOR at the end..... I think Iron Man 2 is way better than the first one.:D
What a lot of people fail to realize is that the first films in comic adaptation franchises are always the origin stories (unless they revert to this in a later film as a prequel) and many refer to these as being "boring" -- but most of the time, they are not remotely un-exciting in the least. The sequels normally up the ante in terms of more camp and a bit over-the-topness when it comes to introducing a new formidable villain, etc. (Spider Man 2 did this the best, and is still the best comic-to-film adaptation to come out of Hollywood) but origin stories are normally looked back upon as "not that much fun" when a sequel comes out and enthralls fans and the public.

Both films had their merits, and both had their worthy advesaries in Jeff Bridges as War Monger in the first and Mickey Rourke as Whiplash in the second. ;)
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
This one had the same problem as the first one: a lot of build up and then the bad guy who they spend the whole movie trying to give the impression that he will be a bad@$$ and then he is defeated in a few minutes.

In terms of fun, I'd call them equal. In terms of story, first one no question. LFE = second one :)
I'll agree with you about the LFE on the second film's Blu-ray Disc -- although the first one's Dolby TrueHD mix was no slouch at all -- but with regard to the "badass" villain character in Mickey Rourke in the sequel, I can understand the notion that it seemed like he was defeated in both fights with Stark/Iron Man in a matter of minutes, but he did some serious ***-kickin' of Tony and even Rhodes in the War Machine suit, don't forget, throwing them both around like they were rag dolls in the end sequence...the thing is, though, Favreau was kind of going for the hero-always-wins scenario rather quickly, making Tony and Rhodey stronger than any adversary when they really put their strength and insight together. And that's just cool comic stuff.

Also, don't forget -- in the first racetrack fight sequence when Stark first encounters Vanko, he can't really get the upper hand initially because he underestimates the power of Vanko's suit. Eventually, Stark gets tired of his energy bursts being deflected by Vanko's lightning whips and he wraps his whips up in order to get close to him and punch his daylights out before flipping him upside down and ripping his chest piece out...

I thought it was VERY cool. :cool: ;)
 
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3db

Audioholic Slumlord
This one had the same problem as the first one: a lot of build up and then the bad guy who they spend the whole movie trying to give the impression that he will be a bad@$$ and then he is defeated in a few minutes.

In terms of fun, I'd call them equal. In terms of story, first one no question. LFE = second one :)
That's how I see it too :)
 
GranteedEV

GranteedEV

Audioholic Ninja
I thought IM2 was great. The thing about it even moreso than the first one is that it's basically carried by the awesomeness of tony stark. That's a good thing.

We watched the blu ray with no sub at night time type sub-moderate volumes and the hot LFE was getting great sub-bass out of my floorstanding tower speakers whicha are tuned around 45-50hz
 
MinusTheBear

MinusTheBear

Audioholic Ninja
I enjoyed IM2 on Blu-ray. Liked it as much as the first one. Lovely sounding audio.
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
Its Thor (sounds like sore with a lisp) and it hurts. ;)
I still don't get it, but okay; I thought you originally said you can't wait for them do to a film about Thor, which is why I asked if you saw the end of the end credits...
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
Thanks for your thoughts, Granteed and MinusTheBear,

Indeed, it seems the concensus was that the LFE track was massively hot on this Master Audio mix.
 
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westcott

Audioholic General
This one had the same problem as the first one: a lot of build up and then the bad guy who they spend the whole movie trying to give the impression that he will be a bad@$$ and then he is defeated in a few minutes.

In terms of fun, I'd call them equal. In terms of story, first one no question. LFE = second one :)
I agree totally. It also tends to insult ones intelligence at times and this is a tragedy because great care was taken through most of the movie to be accurate.

How does a man survive being run into by a Bentley repeatedly? He had no suit. Just the whip "prosthesis'"?

Cracking the firewall. That was just hoky and not even necessary.

And what was all that antiquated firepower scene all about? Most of that was seen in Predator two decades ago.

And why did they always have to fight within whip distance? Seemed silly to me. They could fly, couldn't they?

And with a set of chompers like Varko had, whou would have been fooled by his fake death other than a blind man with no hands.

I could go on but it was this intermittent sillyness that marred an otherwise good movie.

I know. Its a movie and I did like it. Just seems that it could have been better with just a little more effort.
 
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PearlcorderS701

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Well, this is a fantasy/comic adaptation after all...however, I do I agree with much of what you said, being an advocate of keeping things "real" and close to things that are remotely possible in the physical world, at least, in addition to keeping as close to possible to the comic stories...

Let me address:

How does a man survive being run into by a Bentley repeatedly? He had no suit. Just the whip "prosthesis'"?
I agree wholeheartedly here, and was thinking about that just the other day (that sequence) -- he had nothing on to suggest "super protection" from something like a speeding, very large and heavy automobile...:rolleyes:

Cracking the firewall. That was just hoky and not even necessary.
I think Favreau put that in there just for a goof, and so Rourke's reply of "Software's ****..." could be laughed at; overall, I agree that it was unnecessary.

And what was all that antiquated firepower scene all about? Most of that was seen in Predator two decades ago.
I was thinking about this too -- the shoulder-mounted gun on Rhodey's suit seemed antiquated when put into perspective and it didn't seem to hold up to squat when faced with one of Rourke's whips during the end fight sequence.

And why did they always have to fight within whip distance? Seemed silly to me. They could fly, couldn't they?
The suits sure could fly -- but I think Favreau did an outstanding job on the fight sequences, notably the first Monaco race track scene where it got to the point that Rourke's whips began to piss Stark off, and when he had enough of being thrown around, the "hero juice" kicked in and he handed Rourke his *** by twisting out of his whips, punching him pretty much unconscious and ripping his power pack out of his chest, ultimately flipping him around to land on his back. I thought it was very cool.

I also felt there was plenty of "flying around" action towards the end when the HammerDroids attack the Stark Expo, and Tony and Rhodes have to evade them (well, Stark has to evade the drones and War Machine); the within-whip-distance thing during the skirmish between Rhodes, Stark and Vanko at the very end was effective, but not long enough.

And I hate it when it takes two heros to defeat a villain -- like what Raimi did in Spider-Man 3, having Parker face both Sandman and Venom, and he couldn't do it without Harry's help. Ridiculous. I didn't like the fact that Rhodes had to help Stark in order to defeat Vanko by putting their suits' energy together...

And with a set of chompers like Varko had, whou would have been fooled by his fake death other than a blind man with no hands.
LOL -- but what do you mean by this?

The escape sequence was hokey -- you are lead to believe he's escaping from prison, beating up guards and blowing up cells, but then he just willingly goes into the arms of two guards who put a bag over his head, and throw him into a van...what? Why would he assume these are the guys who helped him escape, unless they mumbled something to him in Russian or French to tell him so?

I could go on but it was this intermittent sillyness that marred an otherwise good movie.

I know. Its a movie and I did like it. Just seems that it could have been better with just a little more effort.
Perhaps this sentiment is a good way of tallying it all up -- but as a comic adaptation, I thought it was a great ride. I can't wait for the third one, which is supposed to introduce the Mandarin. I hope Favreau doesn't screw that up, because reportedly, he's having a lot of trouble bringing this character to the big screen.
 
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westcott

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LOL -- but what do you mean by this?
Well, if you noticed, Varco had more gold teeth than all of lower Brooklyn put together!!!!!


If there is not much left of you after an explosion, your dental work is really the best way to identify you. Had they left the gold teeth out of Varco's wardrobe, it would have been a lot more plausible.
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
Well, if you noticed, Varco had more gold teeth than all of lower Brooklyn put together!!!!!


If there is not much left of you after an explosion, your dental work is really the best way to identify you. Had they left the gold teeth out of Varco's wardrobe, it would have been a lot more plausible.
Oh, okay -- I totally forgot about his teeth...:eek:

BTW, the character's name is "Vanko" (Ivan Vanko). ;)

But yeah...his gold teeth were wild...

I was born in Brooklyn...do you live there? Or from there?
 
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westcott

Audioholic General
Oh, okay -- I totally forgot about his teeth...:eek:

But yeah...his gold teeth were wild...

I was born in Brooklyn...do you live there? Or from there?
My wife's parents lived there and that is where my wife was born before they moved to Syosset on the Island. Her grandparents were potato farmers.
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
My wife's parents lived there and that is where my wife was born before they moved to Syosset on the Island. Her grandparents were potato farmers.
Oh, I didn't even notice your location info on your screen...

You live in Houston now? I know Syosset very well; my college roommate lives there with his wife (he's originally from Oyster Bay) and I hail from the South Shore of the Island.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
Agreed the LFE is hot. Be careful with this one. The opening sequence bottomed my sub out and I know it would have happened again if I hadn't made changes.
hmmm, maybe the new house i'm in has done a great deal of good for my POS PSW10? i had the volume ABOVE reference levels on this one and i did not experience any mechanical noise or port noise like i usually do, i will admit the room i had my setup in before had horrible acoustics below 150hz, my sub seemed to handle this movie like it was nothing.:confused::eek: i absolutely LOVED the LFE in this movie!
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
How does a man survive being run into by a Bentley repeatedly? He had no suit. Just the whip "prosthesis'"?
That was one of the things that was ridiculous about that scene. That is a 5000lb car with a lot of horse power. It would have cut him in half. That isn't even the thing that bothered me about that whole sequence. The street car on the track going the wrong way? NOT. The first car that came around the corner would have hit them.

Even though Ivan was in a slow section, there is NO WAY he would have been able to hit those cars on their noses with the whips while they were at any kind of speed. Where he hit Tony's car, I would have expected his feet to be missing...

And what was all that antiquated firepower scene all about? Most of that was seen in Predator two decades ago.
Out of place, but funny. I agree, it didn't fit with the rest of the tech, especially if they are supposed to be a firm that is trying to compete with Stark.

I could go on but it was this intermittent sillyness that marred an otherwise good movie.
They know their audience, for the most part, aren't that intelligent so it doesn't need to be perfect ;)

hmmm, maybe the new house i'm in has done a great deal of good for my POS PSW10? i had the volume ABOVE reference levels on this one and i did not experience any mechanical noise or port noise like i usually do, i will admit the room i had my setup in before had horrible acoustics below 150hz, my sub seemed to handle this movie like it was nothing.:confused::eek: i absolutely LOVED the LFE in this movie!
Most likely because the bass is loud, but not extremely low?
 
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westcott

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That was one of the things that was ridiculous about that scene. That is a 5000lb car with a lot of horse power. It would have cut him in half. That isn't even the thing that bothered me about that whole sequence. The street car on the track going the wrong way? NOT. The first car that came around the corner would have hit them.

Even though Ivan was in a slow section, there is NO WAY he would have been able to hit those cars on their noses with the whips while they were at any kind of speed. Where he hit Tony's car, I would have expected his feet to be missing...



Out of place, but funny. I agree, it didn't fit with the rest of the tech, especially if they are supposed to be a firm that is trying to compete with Stark.



They know their audience, for the most part, aren't that intelligent so it doesn't need to be perfect ;)



Most likely because the bass is loud, but not extremely low?
I told my wife the same thing about the whip. The speed would have made this almost impossible. The same thing with cutting the cars with the whip. His leg would have been toast and totally exposed when he wrecked after the incident. No such thing as wasted space in a Formula 1 car.

Like I said, you could go on and on about the inacccuracies.

Stealing his suit was another farce. With proper software, activation would have been impossible without proper authorization or password.
 
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PearlcorderS701

Banned
hmmm, maybe the new house i'm in has done a great deal of good for my POS PSW10? i had the volume ABOVE reference levels on this one and i did not experience any mechanical noise or port noise like i usually do, i will admit the room i had my setup in before had horrible acoustics below 150hz, my sub seemed to handle this movie like it was nothing.:confused::eek: i absolutely LOVED the LFE in this movie!
My POS PSW350 I think bottomed out with a port snap once or twice during this, but not nearly as bad as it does on Paranormal Activity with the DVD's Dolby Digital track...

Go figure...:rolleyes:
 

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