Living room setup.

[jnelson88]

Wow. A string of new Klipsch systems on the forum. Nice and clean setup. Well done and it goes without saying, nice speakers!!!!

ya klipsch is a good brand its just people get caught up with what someone else says. people just got to understand that what they see in best buy is not the only thing klipsch sells and as it has been said many times and will be said its what "you" as a buyer likes not just the specs sheets. I love the sound of Klipsch and pair it with the right amp your set to go. oh and as I promised the pic of my Sub, the JBL was just to boomy. So I went ahead and hooked up Klipsch RW-10D. I bought it for $100 damaged and had to have it fixed, still having a sealing issue but it still sound great just cant turn it wayy up.
Shrank the pic down to for ppl that dont use a high res monitor.

 

[KlipschHead281]

Nice Klipsch set up! Everything I have except 2 subs are Klipsch, sweet!

 

[jnelson88]

Nice Klipsch set up! Everything I have except 2 subs are Klipsch, sweet!

Ya I hope to get started on a dedicated Room next year, Plain to swap out the sub and rear speakers, the rears will be the matching set for the Bookshelfs and the sub I have't decided yet on what go with.

 

[jnelson88]

updates coming soon...

 

[jnelson88]

Well made a few upgrades to my main systems. Its only getting better. I Bought a Emotiva 5 Channel Amp (Only running 3 though). Bought it right before it went on sale to, no problem Emotiva sent me a rebate check. I also replaced my Klipsch RW-10D with two Polk audio PSW-10, They were on sale so why not get two?
Had a buzz in my two mains, changed out a cable and boom fixed it.

 

[westcott]

Well made a few upgrades to my main systems. Its only getting better. I Bought a Emotiva 5 Channel Amp (Only running 3 though).

I have always wanted an Emotiva Amp. I just always stradled the fence because the Klipsch speakers are so efficient that I truly wondered how much benefit I would get from them. Can you tell us what your experience has been?

Glad you found your sound problem and thanks for sharing.

 

[jnelson88]

I have always wanted an Emotiva Amp. I just always stradled the fence because the Klipsch speakers are so efficient that I truly wondered how much benefit I would get from them. Can you tell us what your experience has been?

Glad you found your sound problem and thanks for sharing.

Whew, given me a difficult one to write down in the forums, would be easier to show you, well here goes. The amp has a cleaner sound at higher volumes, I have cranked it to 0db (which was actually too loud for the room) and the speakers still put out an accurate sound. Of course the specs on my Yammy are decent but compared to yours mine would need the boast. Your receiver is closer to the amp as far as specs go. You probably would benefit more from the XPA line, not from the UPA.
I haven't dealt with Denon's higher end models. I have yet to go to an actual store other than Best Buy and that doesn't count (to me at least) as an actual Home Theater store or showroom.
I would like to ask is how did you get your set up to look so clean?​

 

[westcott]

I would like to ask is how did you get your set up to look so clean?​

It is my wife's fault. She stipulated that it had to look clean and she did not want to see wires or equipment lights from the seating area. I was also unable to use acoustic treatments that could be readily identifiable in the room.

These guidelines required me to hide ALL the wiring in channels cut in the concrete foundation to house the wiring. This also allowed me to acoustically isolate the floor before laying down the Vermont Maple floors. And, place all the equipment behind the couch in one on my wife's favorite pieces of furniture in the house (the AV Credenza).

I did all the work myself except cutting the channels in the foundation. We counted nearly 40 holes in the wall before all the drywall was done. We even sealed in a window above the fireplace! I also added the lighting fixtures.

A two story room has lots of fire breaks and additional structural support. This made wiring far more involved and I am glad I won't ever have to do it again.

Thanks for the feedback. It reinforces what I had predicted. I feel better now!!!

 

[jnelson88]

It is my wife's fault. She stipulated that it had to look clean and she did not want to see wires or equipment lights from the seating area. I was also unable to use acoustic treatments that could be readily identifiable in the room.

These guidelines required me to hide ALL the wiring in channels cut in the concrete foundation to house the wiring. This also allowed me to acoustically isolate the floor before laying down the Vermont Maple floors. And, place all the equipment behind the couch in one on my wife's favorite pieces of furniture in the house (the AV Credenza).

I did all the work myself except cutting the channels in the foundation. We counted nearly 40 holes in the wall before all the drywall was done. We even sealed in a window above the fireplace! I also added the lighting fixtures.

A two story room has lots of fire breaks and additional structural support. This made wiring far more involved and I am glad I won't ever have to do it again.

Thanks for the feedback. It reinforces what I had predicted. I feel better now!!!

I cant even imagine working on a two story. All that air space to fill too. I'm about to start working on a Dedicated room myself. Lucky for me I'm almost starting from scratch, I have to build two walls as well as a floor, relocate a door and repair the ceiling. The good thing about building walls and repairing the roof is that it will be easier to run all the wiring, build the mounts and put in sound proofing material. Why does it always sound easier when your writing or typing it? Which bring to light a deck that will have to be built at the same time...meh better get started...

 

[yepimonfire]

I also replaced my Klipsch RW-10D with two Polk audio PSW-10, They were on sale so why not get two?

Bad idea. your going to need 5 of those damn things to output the level of LFE without port noise you desire. the klipsch was a far better sub. it had an extension to 25hz, that polk only has an extension to 35hz, after 35 hz its rolls off steeply and begin making loads of chuffing noise.

 

[flava30]

wow that's a nice set up...

 

[jnelson88]

Bad idea. your going to need 5 of those damn things to output the level of LFE without port noise you desire. the klipsch was a far better sub. it had an extension to 25hz, that polk only has an extension to 35hz, after 35 hz its rolls off steeply and begin making loads of chuffing noise.

Yes but the Klipsch's box is damaged and would make an even worse noise, I have two of them for the size room I'm in it works perfect, I don't even run them above 1/4 volume. Plus I paid $80 for both brand new in box. My plans to build a dedicated room summer of next year will be the excuse to buy new subs, as the room will be bigger and have more airspace to fill. As for now it sounds very good to me. I will be posting pics of the space that will be the dedicated room.

 

[jnelson88]

Yepimonfire... you were partially right, Playing movies the subs sound very good, music however is the subs Achilles heal. Of course my RB-81's more than make up for it. Of course I should have stuck with Klipsch they have not failed me yet, aside from my 10D's box, but I payed a $100 for it so can't really complain. As I said in my last post I will be purchasing more subs and they will be Klipsch.

 

[yepimonfire]

actually movies is the subs issue, as stated before it will not go down past 30hz without severe mechanical noise. in all honesty those RB-81's can reach down to 45hz, 5 hz difference from the PSW10's -3dB point, if i were you i would run the LFE through them by setting them to large, i'm sure they would perform better then those subs.. if you put war of the worlds in and tryed playing it on that sub, it would take a sh*t on your floor. i nearly destroyed the driver with a moderate volume.

 

[jnelson88]

actually movies is the subs issue, as stated before it will not go down past 30hz without severe mechanical noise. in all honesty those RB-81's can reach down to 45hz, 5 hz difference from the PSW10's -3dB point, if i were you i would run the LFE through them by setting them to large, i'm sure they would perform better then those subs.. if you put war of the worlds in and tryed playing it on that sub, it would take a sh*t on your floor. i nearly destroyed the driver with a moderate volume.

Ohh trust me they are and they do perform. You think it could be the box design or the woofer or the amp... can't be all three... can it... nah this calls for experimentation.

 

[yepimonfire]

i'm going to say it's the box/port design, this sub would benefit from a much larger port and larger box. i think if it had both of those it could be a real performer.

 

[jnelson88]

hmmm, I do have an extra box that is from a JBL sub, the fuse blew out in and I have been unable to find a replacement so far may try some switching around, hopefully I won't get electrocuted, I'll probably wait till after the tornado watch expires.

 

[jnelson88]

i'm going to say it's the box/port design, this sub would benefit from a much larger port and larger box. i think if it had both of those it could be a real performer.

That and the amp is too weak. The box is also a very thin box too, thats also how they cut their cost. the sub it self isn't that meaty either, compare it to the RW-10D or my JBL's venue 10, and it falls short, small magnet and weak metals. The actual woofer material is strong. All and all a waste of my money.

 

[jnelson88]

Well the box I used had just a little too much space didn't sound that good at all. I put It through 35hz and it sounded ok but when I put it to a movie, 300. It didn't sound that good. Heres some pics of the sub taken apart.

The Amp

The Woofer (notice the magnet kinda small)

Box interior (notice it has a piece of board between the amp and the sub)

The port

I would say if they made the box a little bit bigger and gave the amp a little more to work with this sub would be good

 

[yepimonfire]

this disappoints me, you should see how good the inside of their speaker boxes look and you would understand why.

come to think of it the whole port noise may be caused by the port being stuck inside that little crevice, i always noticed the chuffing came from inside the port not the opening. if anyone owns one of these subs and has the tools to do this i would be very interesting in seeing how much of a difference it would make side loading the port rather then front firing.