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[GlocksRock]

Whos flat response are we talking about ? And with what measurements are you basing this off of. Link please.

blu-ray.com is blocked from my work now, so I can't visit it here any longer, but one member on there has 4 ultras and 2 PB12 plus subs, a double stack of ultra's in each front coner, and a single PB12 plus in each rear corner, and they are all eq'd with the SVS eq. That particular member posted pics of everything, but doesn't keep the pics up regularly, but did post a pic of the final eq graph where the in room response was pretty darn flat. If I can remember to look for it when I get home I'll try to find it for you. If you want to look, the forum member's name is D_M, go to the blu-ray.com forums and under the subwoofer section, visit the official svs subwoofer owners thread and you can see what pics he has posted in the gallery at the moment, if any at all.

 

[sawzalot]

blu-ray.com is blocked from my work now, so I can't visit it here any longer, but one member on there has 4 ultras and 2 PB12 plus subs, a double stack of ultra's in each front coner, and a single PB12 plus in each rear corner, and they are all eq'd with the SVS eq. That particular member posted pics of everything, but doesn't keep the pics up regularly, but did post a pic of the final eq graph where the in room response was pretty darn flat. If I can remember to look for it when I get home I'll try to find it for you. If you want to look, the forum member's name is D_M, go to the blu-ray.com forums and under the subwoofer section, visit the official svs subwoofer owners thread and you can see what pics he has posted in the gallery at the moment, if any at all.

I am a member there as well, I looked GR but couldn't find any pics buy I think this is the guy you are speaking of, I remembered he was the member with six subs in a 12 x 12 room:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3449615

Here is his quote if the link fails:
The subs are all set to the 15/16 hz tune and are eq'd through the AS-EQ1 flat to 20hz with the roll off tapering around 15hz. The subs were mixed with SVS approval and I have them running hot due to subjective taste.

His screen name is D_M.
Here is a link to his sub forum posts:http://forum.blu-ray.com/search.php?searchid=3881088&pp=25

 

[GlocksRock]

I am a member there as well, I looked GR but couldn't find any pics buy I think this is the guy you are speaking of, I remembered he was the member with six subs in a 12 x 12 room:
http://forum.blu-ray.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3449615

Here is his quote if the link fails:
The subs are all set to the 15/16 hz tune and are eq'd through the AS-EQ1 flat to 20hz with the roll off tapering around 15hz. The subs were mixed with SVS approval and I have them running hot due to subjective taste.

His screen name is D_M.

Yes, that is exactly who I'm referring too. All those subs in a 12x12 room is insane, I would love to experience that. I'm not sure why he doesn't keep the pics of his setup posted in his gallery, but he should as it's quite impressive.

 

[sawzalot]

Yes, that is exactly who I'm referring too. All those subs in a 12x12 room is insane, I would love to experience that. I'm not sure why he doesn't keep the pics of his setup posted in his gallery, but he should as it's quite impressive.

I agree, I remember him saying one time that he was up over 10,000.00 dollars just in subs- nothing additional just the subs
He was posting about walls cracking and little details like that, it all sounds crazy as I feel we can enjoy awesome bass in a refined way, I don't want to patch any more bullnose with spackle,lol.

 

[Warpdrv]

I can't seem to find the pics... or see them, a little help with the links when you find them..

Now if your saying the end result measurement is the screen shot from the SVS EQ software, I'll just call BS right now about a flat response. Unless it was measured with an 3rd party program like REW then I'm not buying it...

Every single screen shot I have seen of that unit looks exactly the same. Hardly believable that there is a perfectly straight line coming from every single room that uses it... especially with that many subs... the bass colliding in there is extremely likely to have multiple cancellations... and can only be corrected individually 1 sub at a time....

Come On.... every one looks exactly like this...

I'm not saying it doesn't produce good results with a pair of subs, Kal Rubinson showed it worked nicely with proof of measurements but expecting perfect results from 6 & 8 subs... I am just not buying it... Hard to believe

 

[GlocksRock]

I agree, I remember him saying one time that he was up over 10,000.00 dollars just in subs- nothing additional just the subs
He was posting about walls cracking and little details like that, it all sounds crazy as I feel we can enjoy awesome bass in a refined way, I don't want to patch any more bullnose with spackle,lol.

As much of a bass head as I am, I would probably be scared to have that much bass in my system, especially in a room that size... It would be downright amazing, but I would be worried about causing structural damage to the house with all that gear.

 

[GlocksRock]

I can't seem to find the pics... or see them, a little help with the links when you find them..

Now if your saying the end result measurement is the screen shot from the SVS EQ software, I'll just call BS right now about a flat response. Unless it was measured with an 3rd party program like REW then I'm not buying it...

Every single screen shot I have seen of that unit looks exactly the same. Hardly believable that there is a perfectly straight line coming from every single room that uses it... especially with that many subs... the bass colliding in there is extremely likely to have multiple cancellations... and can only be corrected individually 1 sub at a time....

Come On.... every one looks exactly like this...

Like I said, he doesn't keep the pics posted in his gallery, but feel free to join blu-ray.com forums and PM him directly to request pics and details. I know he worked pretty hard to get his end result, and received assistance from SVS to achieve his results.

 

[sawzalot]

I can't seem to find the pics... or see them, a little help with the links when you find them ...

I was caught up in that thread over at Blucom and remembered the guy with the six subs so I looked for the pics but can't find any either, I would pm him but it seems kinda stalkish, maybe I'll post a question and see where that goes.

 

[GlocksRock]

The pics would be in the gallery, you can find the gallery by looking under the persons screen name where it says gallery and clicking the link. I have pics of my bedroom system posted in my gallery on there, I'm under the name drasticplastic over there. He may post pics if you ask, he has done it before, but he doesn't keep the pics up for very long.

 

[Warpdrv]

yeah not a member, can't see any pics here...

Don't get me wrong - I'm just a bit skeptical of such end result measurement shots where every single one I have seen looks exactly just like that.

Knowing how much trouble I go through to EQ 4 subs separately, you'd understand where I'm coming from with the time spent doing such a task.

All in different locations - each sub provides its own unique set of problems adding to the collective....

 

[GlocksRock]

I'm not saying eqing a bung of subs is an easy task, but using svs's eq, with assistance from svs, I'm sure it's possible, although likely difficult. It would seem easiest for the eq to set every sub correctly if they are all eq'd at the same time, but since I've never done anything like that before I could be way off. It just seems that if you eq one sub, then add another, you may need to re eq the first again, and so on with each additional sub, but if you do them all at the same time, the eq can automatically adjust everything all at once.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

I think we all agree that the the AS-EQ1 graphs are low resolution (0ne octave I believe) and the flat response doesn't tell use anything because of this.

Just for the record...I am going to post my graph on here when I get it and I want you to act shocked like it's the best thing you have ever seen.

Now if your saying the end result measurement is the screen shot from the SVS EQ software, I'll just call BS right now about a flat response. Unless it was measured with an 3rd party program like REW then I'm not buying it...

Every single screen shot I have seen of that unit looks exactly the same. Hardly believable that there is a perfectly straight line coming from every single room that uses it... especially with that many subs... the bass colliding in there is extremely likely to have multiple cancellations... and can only be corrected individually 1 sub at a time....

Come On.... every one looks exactly like this...

I'm not saying it doesn't produce good results with a pair of subs, Kal Rubinson showed it worked nicely with proof of measurements but expecting perfect results from 6 & 8 subs... I am just not buying it... Hard to believe

 

[ParadigmDawg]

PD, WOTW should be an essential part of anyone's BD collection! Go to BB and buy it. The dual Ultras will make you grin.

Ok, I just bought WOTW so I will test tonight.

I also got the newest Black Eyed Peas which is not my style but it has some hard hitting bass. Scared me and my dog plus rattled all kinds of weird stuff in my house.

 

[croseiv]

Ok, I just bought WOTW so I will test tonight.

I also got the newest Black Eyed Peas which is not my style but it has some hard hitting bass. Scared me and my dog plus rattled all kinds of weird stuff in my house.

Cool. I hope you are impressed with the bass. I know the movie itself is lousy, but I think the earthquake/pod emerging scenes are pretty sick LFE wise.

 

[its phillip]

Ok, I just bought WOTW so I will test tonight.

I also got the newest Black Eyed Peas which is not my style but it has some hard hitting bass. Scared me and my dog plus rattled all kinds of weird stuff in my house.

ew, black eyed peas.

listen to some dubstep if you want some hard hitting bass :O

 

[ParadigmDawg]

ew, black eyed peas.

listen to some dubstep if you want some hard hitting bass :O

I listen to mainly jazz so no way I am jumping up to something named dubstep...

 

[Warpdrv]

Whos flat response are we talking about ? And with what measurements are you basing this off of. Link please.

Black eyed peas - Boom Boom Pow

Good bass in that one. Not my fav, but good for testing

 

[j_garcia]

THIS is how a DAWG enjoys the system:

 

[croseiv]

PD, Did you get a chance to watch WOTW? Just wondering what you thought. I just finished watching FOTP. That one has some good bass too.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

PD, Did you get a chance to watch WOTW? Just wondering what you thought. I just finished watching FOTP. That one has some good bass too.

Watched it last night at -20 with Dynamic EQ on and it was pretty much out of control. At reference level, I'm not sure my body, my house or my subs could handle it.

Do you guys turn off Dynamic EQ when playing close to reference levels or do you trust that it mellows as the volume goes up and shouldn't be adding anything at reference?