OK to run Behringer EP2000 through power center?

[darien87]

I have a solution for the lack of auto-on with my new Behringer EP2000. My Belkin PF31 power center has a turn-on feature. But I'm just wondering if having my amp plugged into the power center instead of directly into the wall will limit it's power?

I am also having a separate 20amp circuit installed in the great room where my system will be. I was planning on having the sub on this circuit by itself. But if I was to have the Belkin connected to the 20amp circuit would this alleviate the current limiting possiblities of the Belkin? Supposedly the Belkin has high-current outputs that are supposed to be specifically for amps, but it just seems to me that when you take one outlet and split it up into 10 more that power availability HAS to be decreased. Seems logical to me.

What should I do?

 

[highfigh]

I have a solution for the lack of auto-on with my new Behringer EP2000. My Belkin PF31 power center has a turn-on feature. But I'm just wondering if having my amp plugged into the power center instead of directly into the wall will limit it's power?

I am also having a separate 20amp circuit installed in the great room where my system will be. I was planning on having the sub on this circuit by itself. But if I was to have the Belkin connected to the 20amp circuit would this alleviate the current limiting possiblities of the Belkin? Supposedly the Belkin has high-current outputs that are supposed to be specifically for amps, but it just seems to me that when you take one outlet and split it up into 10 more that power availability HAS to be decreased. Seems logical to me.

What should I do?

Most amplifiers don't have much that will be damaged by the normal voltage delivered by the power company, whether high or low. Transformers do limit current, so any surge protection should be parallel to the load. Since you're running one new circuit, why not run a second?

 

[GordonW]

+1 on MAKING ABSOLUTELY SURE that the Belkin does NOT have any filter elements IN SERIES with the load. Parallel (shunt filter) elements are OK... but anything in-line with the output outlets, is ASKING FOR TROUBLE with a high-power amplifier.

I've lost count of the PA amps I've seen burnt to a crisp, from low voltage due to being plugged into so-called "power conditioners". The switching power supplies in many new amps just simply will self-destruct, trying desperately to maintain rated output, when the line voltage starts browning-out, due to the impedance of series filters inside these conditioners.

Other than that, the outlets themselves should not be a problem, as long as the TOTAL load on the Belkin is 20 amps or less. If the amp PLUS other things used through the Belkin add up to close to or more than 20 amps, then you need a separate circuit for the amplifier.

Regards,
Gordon.

 

[Rickster71]

When the new circuit is installed, you could have them run either two 20 Amp circuits or run one 12-3 and split the one outlet into two circuits.

Or would a remote power strip do what you want? Maybe something like this?
http://www.buy.com/prod/belkin-conserve-energy-saving-surge-protector-with-remote-switch/q/listingid/45751049/loc/101/209847435.html

 

[tcarcio]

Or would a remote power strip do what you want? Maybe something like this?
http://www.buy.com/prod/belkin-conserve-energy-saving-surge-protector-with-remote-switch/q/listingid/45751049/loc/101/209847435.html

Thanks for posting the info on that belkin. I can make good use of something like that.

 

[darien87]

Thanks for the responses guys.

I actually ended up having two 20-amp circuits installed in the living room. The EP2000 will be all by itself on one circuit and all my other stuff will be plugged into the Belkin on the other circuit, except for my XPA-5, which will be plugged into the same outlet, but not plugged into the Belkin.

I still don't have an auto-on solution for the EP2000, but I guess that isn't a huge deal. I kind of like it actually, because there are times where I want my system on, but don't necessarily want my giant sub playing, like when I'm playing video games late at night. Something like that Belkin power-save unit would work, but it's only rated to 15 amps. Would this still be OK? I doubt the EP2000 will ever be close to pulling more than 15 amps, but you never know.

 

[jostenmeat]

My guess is that you're absolutely fine with 2x 20amp circuits. If only because I run all my HT on a single 20A circuit, including a Crown, NAD, and Onkyo. I've made my ears ring, I've made the house shake, and I've never tripped anything. You already have more than 99% of what enthusiasts have, in my guesstimation. Cheers.

 

[Rickster71]

Thanks for the responses guys.

Something like that Belkin power-save unit would work, but it's only rated to 15 amps. Would this still be OK? I doubt the EP2000 will ever be close to pulling more than 15 amps, but you never know.

I don't think that amp will ever draw full ampacity in real world home use.
What kind of a load will you have on it?
Your wife will make you lower the volume before it ever trips the 15 Amp fuse.

 

[darien87]

I don't think that amp will ever draw full ampacity in real world home use.
What kind of a load will you have on it?
Your wife will make you lower the volume before it ever trips the 15 Amp fuse.

I've got the EP2000 bridged to a 4ohm load.

My wife might ask me to turn it down, but she'll never make me.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

A XANTECH AC1 is perfect for this. I even use to have one myself to turn on my EP2500.

http://www.amazon.com/XANTECH-AC1-Controlled-AC-Outlet/dp/B000NU0T62

http://www.smarthome.com/81301/Xantech-Controlled-AC-Outlet-AC1/p.aspx

 

[Stereodude]

A XANTECH AC1 is perfect for this. I even use to have one myself to turn on my EP2500.

http://www.amazon.com/XANTECH-AC1-Controlled-AC-Outlet/dp/B000NU0T62

http://www.smarthome.com/81301/Xantech-Controlled-AC-Outlet-AC1/p.aspx

I bought 2 Furman MP-20 units to control the subs in my HT.

 

[darien87]

A XANTECH AC1 is perfect for this. I even use to have one myself to turn on my EP2500.

http://www.amazon.com/XANTECH-AC1-Controlled-AC-Outlet/dp/B000NU0T62

http://www.smarthome.com/81301/Xantech-Controlled-AC-Outlet-AC1/p.aspx

Geez, $80 for a switch? I've been asking the electrician that wired my house if he could replicate one of these, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.

 

[ParadigmDawg]

But it has a 12v trigger...

Lets see:

3-6k for a display

3-4k for speakers

2-3k for a sub

1-2k for an AVR

Yep...it's all crazy...

Geez, $80 for a switch? I've been asking the electrician that wired my house if he could replicate one of these, but he hasn't gotten back to me yet.