j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I don't think Bose sound terrible, but for sure they aren't worth their selling price for the small cube systems. There are many comparable systems out there that are less than half the price and most other systems in the same price range are better.
 
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Gizmologist

Junior Audioholic
Many moons ago

I worked for a high end stereo store in Dallas. The SOTA stuff at that time was McIntosh, HK Quad and the 901 series from Bose. IF you use the correct Bose EQ and the amp has sufficient power, they really don't sound bad at all.

Granted they don't have earschplittenloudenboomer bass that rearranges your intestines but aside from that not bad.

BTW we only used off the shelf 12 awg wire for speakers and the ICs are the ones that came with the equipment.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
every bose system i have heard has a "smile curve" to their response, sure this sounds impressive because your hearing high sounds and low sounds that a typical non-audiophile would have never heard before, but this becomes very irritating very quickly. ever listen to music on them? sounds horrible.
 
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Gizmologist

Junior Audioholic
some yes, some no

As they are designed to be "direct/reflecting" without the proper location and acoustic structure they are kind of hollow. That being said I have heard many hours of a variety of music from thee and much of it had a distinctly "live" aspect to it. As it was designed to do. I know several folks still from those days with money to burn who are holding tight to them because they really enjoy the spatial characteristics.

I have heard some systems recently with uber exotic speakers and poor setup parameters so the sound was one thing at the 1 meter point and if you were listening for an equal SPL at all frequencies they were OK. However since no venue anywhere has a flat FR SPL, when listening to them from a more realistic position they were quite lackluster.

IMO.

BTW I did specify that the BOSE EQ must be used. Since tape loops are rare nowadays, this gets increasingly difficult.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
explain what a bose EQ is exactly and what it has to do with tape loops.
 
gonk

gonk

Full Audioholic
BTW I did specify that the BOSE EQ must be used. Since tape loops are rare nowadays, this gets increasingly difficult.
The EQ only applies to the 901, as I understand it. Bose's current offerings - the Acoustimass horrors - are a completely different animal. I've never heard the 901's, so can't comment, but I have heard the Acoustimass systems and can say that no amount of EQ can fix them...
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
if a speaker system needs an eq to fix it, something is wrong.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
true, but like the speakers i have could benefit from a little eq on the top end since they are somewhat bright but they dont NEED an EQ to sound good.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Not necessarially.

if a speaker system needs an eq to fix it, something is wrong.
The Bose 901 is a small trapezoidal box with nine 4" drivers in it: One on the long side facing forward and eight facing the two angled rear facing sides. This required some finesse in placement.

Since we know that only two of the three speaker design goals can be had at any one time (small, bass, efficient), Bose sacrificed efficiency here. They went for a small speaker that could produce bass.

And, since small drivers, no matter how many there are, can only produce a certain amount of bass, it was designed to work with an eq that provided about 18 decibels of bass boost, at least in the early series. As such, to sound right, they required a tremendous amount of power.

Moving along, since we all know that equalizers need to be "inserted" into the signal path, some way to accomplish that is needed. Fortunately, tape in/out (or EPL) loops were about as common as ants at a picnic in the old days. Nowadays, they are rare.

The only way most modern receivers can accomplish this is between the pre and power amp stages.

And, to give the devil his due, when the 901's were properly placed and fed enough power, they could sound quite impressive on many types of music.

And, Electrovoice had some more conventional looking speakers, the Interface series, that needed an eq to operate properly and was one of the better speakers of it's day, also.
 
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andy_c

Audioholic
Getting back to the original subject...

I have yet to read one bad review or opinion from any other beta tester used.
That's because people were given expensive cables for free, in exchange for what's described here. A brief quote:

wywires said:
There is no cost for participating and you can keep the cables if you like them with our compliments. All we need from you is a detailed description of your system and your system goals as well as a commitment to listen to our cables extensively, compare them to your current reference, provide a written evaluation and make yourself available to answer questions.
The more one sings the praises of these cables, the better the chance of receiving more free cables.

I've tried to summarize all the shilling going on related to wywires here.
 
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