Cop Punches Girl in the Face

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ArthurPE

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pretty much everything

exactly

wrong, I countered your arguement, you got upset...ad hominem
you are doing what you accuse me off...

my farts have more substance than some of the comments posted here by your posse...why don't you thank and rep each other in a big circle jerk,lol

wrong, it's you who see 'black and white' and have god like powers to divine right and wrong...I just call BS when i see it
you're a 'mod', you're supposed to be even handed and impartial, stay out of the situation, observe...but not react, you're getting angry...it's the internet, lighten up


huh?

what have i spouted off about things i don't know about?

you mean when i posted my opinion on the matter and how i shared how i was gonna teach my kid?

oh i see. you're the type of person who:
-attacks the person instead of the argument
-doesn't even think before spouting words from his mouth (soldier = war ... classic)
-thinks everybody else who doesn't share your opinion is spewing crap

strike 2.
 
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ArthurPE

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Do you know how I can tell you are full of BS?.... I'll tell you anyway.:)
Anyone with as much worldly experience as you claim to have, would know that Racism is a two way street, always has been, and always will.
never said I was 'worldy', only that I have seen and done the things you guys are purported experts on, but you've never done...

what do you do? what have you done? what is your educational background? age group? etc.

wow, the insight, whites & blacks can be racist...
it's better to be on the 90% majority side though...

after some cops beat up Miles Davis for standing near a stage door taking a breather between sets and refusing to 'shuffle on satchmo', he was asked by a princess from denmark (?) if he had 3 wishes what would they be?
he only had one...to be white
 
mike c

mike c

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pretty much everything

exactly

wrong, I countered your arguement, you got upset...ad hominem
you are doing what you accuse me off...

my farts have more substance than some of the comments posted here by your posse...why don't you thank and rep each other in a big circle jerk,lol

wrong, it's you who see 'black and white' and have god like powers to divine right and wrong...I just call BS when i see it
you're a 'mod', you're supposed to be even handed and impartial, stay out of the situation, observe...but not react, you're getting angry...it's the internet, lighten up
umm no to everything.

but you can log on to www.GFY.com (not actually the site it leads to)
 
Patrukas777

Patrukas777

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pretty much your whole take and perspective on the situation and my position

it means you talk the talk, but never walked the walk...perhaps you should comment on things you know something about...what would that be?
please tell us

1/8 of the country is black, 9/10 ths of the police brutality cases are white on black, do the math...

because you live with blinders on, and a closed mind

pretty much every way conceivable
Talk what talk and walk what walk?? please explain...:confused::eek:

If you're going to bring up numbers, then it would be only fair to bring up what percentage of Law Enforcement is White....too bad you didn't factor that into the equation. Looks like you're skewing numbers to support your nonsense.

Closed minded? why, because I don't support the nonsense you propose. :rolleyes::confused:

Funny stuff.....you can never give specifics.
 
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ArthurPE

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you want specifics? you can't even deal in the truth or reality!

confused is a familiar state of mind(less) for you

what would that have to do with it? assume they are ALL white
statistics is not your forte

yes...becasue your mind is closed to open thought, it's preconditioned, set in a pattern, inflexible

Talk what talk and walk what walk?? please explain...:confused::eek:

If you're going to bring up numbers, then it would be only far to bring up what percentage of Law Enforcement is White....too bad you didn't factor that into the equation. Looks like you're skewing numbers to support your nonsense.

Closed minded? why, because I don't support the nonsense you propose. :rolleyes::confused:

Funny stuff.....you can never give specifics.
 
Patrukas777

Patrukas777

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you want specifics? you can't even deal in the truth or reality!

confused is a familiar state of mind(less) for you

what would that have to do with it? assume they are ALL white
statistics is not your forte

yes...becasue your mind is closed to open thought, it's preconditioned, set in a pattern, inflexible
What I find amusing is you never answer the question. All you can do is comeback with a personal attack, and say how superior you are. I ask questions and you attack me by saying how dumb I am...and I'm the closed minded one...riight;)

Let me see if I understand you correctly...My mind is closed to open thought because you "Bet" that it was based on race and social status? I at least offered a perspective on how law enforcement works.
 
mike c

mike c

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What I find amusing is you never answer the question. All you can do is comeback with a personal attack, and say how superior you are. I ask questions and you attack me by saying how dumb I am...and I'm the closed minded one...riight;)

Let me see if I understand you correctly...My mind is closed to open thought because you "Bet" that it was based on race and social status? I at least offered a perspective on how law enforcement works.
i have to apologize to everyone with pending replies to arthur. you'll just have to catch another of his alter egos created just to debate here in the steam vent.
 
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markw

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i have to apologize to everyone with pending replies to arthur. you'll just have to catch another of his alter egos created just to debate here in the steam vent.
Well, when it comes to bating, he surely was a master.
 
Patrukas777

Patrukas777

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i have to apologize to everyone with pending replies to arthur. you'll just have to catch another of his alter egos created just to debate here in the steam vent.
He's out of control...
 
mike c

mike c

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now i remember why i don't participate in these threads. my post in the other thread was an honest opinion with no intent to debate further.
 
Alex2507

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now i remember why i don't participate in these threads.
I kind of like it when you do. It's like that metal song.


My name is Alex2507 and I approve this banning. :)
I love seeing just exactly how far they can go before the hammer.
 
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Patrukas777

Patrukas777

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I kind of like it when you do. It's like that metal song.


My name is Alex2507 and I approve this banning. :)
I love seeing just exactly how far they can go before the hammer.
That song is awesome....I just set it as my greeting on my cell phone. That song is perfect for the occasion :D
 
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GO-NAD!

GO-NAD!

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The young lady is no stranger to assaulting police.
Court records show Levias has been arrested for assaulting a police officer before this incident. According to court documents, Levias kicked a King County Sheriff's deputy in the stomach while she resisted arrest
Sounds like she needs some anger management counselling...
 
Ares

Ares

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Here is an article that goes into more detail and offers you some more insight into these girls past. It's from the Seattle Times
 
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Slamming a teenage girl onto the concrete risks injury that would seem unneccessairy (what he did worked).

I don't think he did anything illegal or inappropriate.

I don't think either that this represents a gold standard of how to respond to the situation. He did loose control of the circumstance and is lucky that things didn't end up worse for all involved.

A lone cop trying to ticket 5 people for J-walking and one starts to walk off: what might have worked better?

To the other four: "Today is your lucky day because that girl just got you out of a ticket. You are going to tell me her name and home address and I'm going to get a second officer and go arrest her for 'resisting without violence', as well as ticket her for J-Walking."

But while I think that would have been the best solution: I don't expect perfection from police. As I said: he was well within proper behavior from what I saw.
Yeah, it wasn't pretty, but I doubt that there are many situations that would perfectly conform with the textbook. There are so many shades of grey out there, that cops have to make split-second judgement calls as to how they should respond to a given situation. There is nobody who watched that video who can say with absolute certainty that they could've/would've handled this one better. That cop had seconds to decide how to respond as the incident unfolded. Everybody else has the luxury to watch the video from their chairs and pass judgement on the cop.

When the girl flipped out, he could've decided that it just wasn't worth the bother and simply let her go. That would've been taking the easy way out. It would also have sent the wrong message, that cops are spineless and if you just stand up to them, they'll back down.

When people try to do their jobs to the best of their abilities and sometimes make mistakes, or perhaps their judgement was a bit off, I'm loath to condemn them. If he'd demonstrated gross misjudgement, pulled out his sidearm and shot her in the face, that would be different...
 
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once the situation escalated the cop had to respond, the girl was out of control putting her hands on the cop...

did the cop help it get out of control, seems like it
ticketing people for walking 10' outside of a line is kind of silly
a warning would have sufficed...
I'm sure the neighborhood and make up of the residents had something to do with it...bet there's no cops in the white upper class areas ticketing kids for walking outside the lines...

the worse part is it gives ammo to one side to attack the cop, and the other side to attack the minorities...'hood rats', nice

could have been worse: shot 20-30 times for brandishing a hairbrush or a wallet
I'll bet that if the cop was offered the choice of patrolling a "white upper class area", which would probably be perceived to be a quiet uneventful patrol area, he would've jumped at it. However, he was assigned to this particular area and, while he was there, was obliged to enforce the law. I know cops exercise some discretion as to whether they will let some infractions pass or not. If he decides to enforce the law, you can't fault him for that.
 
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Well ... he could have returned on his day off in a stolen car and treated it like Death Race 2010 with point assignments for how bad they tried to jump back up on the sidewalk when they realized that he was taking Right of Way to a whole new level. In the spirit of fairness points would be deducted if they had two feet on the side walk when they got run over.

Yeah ... that would have worked way better. ;)

I hate jay walkers. There's a junior high about a mile from me. I'm kind of amazed that the teachers don't go into the schools and start shooting the place up instead of it always being the students. I hate teen agers and cops too. When I was in school I hated teachers. :rolleyes:

I must have my cranky pants on.
You're one angry monkey.....
 
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