Possibly not getting true HD from Mitsu WS-55711

[rivrbyte]

Mitsubishi Rear projection WS-55711

My brother has this Mitsubishi HDTV ready TV, he does not think he is receiving true HD results when playing a Bluray or watching a HD cable program. He does not have an HDMI plug-in on his set.


This may/may not be the problem...It states that this set is HDTV ready, Display Format> 1080i set, ATSC, NTSC, Component, Composite, and S-Video connections. (he was not sure he had s-video or component plug-ins)

This is the rear projection TV model # WS-55711 specs.

I hope this link works-
http://reviews.cnet.com/projection-tvs/mitsubishi-ws-55711/1707-6484_7-20577400.html#manDesc


Does it matter that I have a 46" Samsung A750 1080P HDTV, and he only has a 1080i HDTV ready set? Would I get more HD from cable HD programming and more Blu-ray HD detail than his TV?

He thinks my TV has more detail watching a Blu-ray or even a regular DVD in the BD player than his TV.

I think he has an HDMI cable from TimeWarner STB to BluRay, but only component cables from the TV to the TimeWarner STB. Shouldn't he still get all the HD from both BluRay playback in 1080P and cable programming in 1080i in an HD signal? I know nothing is broadcast is 1080p at this time.

 

[j_garcia]

That TV is only capable of 1080i, so no it is not possible to get 1080p on this set. Most cable HD is 1080i.

 

[rivrbyte]

As we know, nothing is Broadcast in 1080P. Only 1080i. So he has a 1080i HDTV, does that mean he will not ever get 1080P from his 1080P Sony Bluray player?
He just told me his connections are this...
Component cables from 1080i HDTV to Sony BD Player.
Component cables from 1080i HDTV to TIME-WARNER HDDVR STB

Is this the right connection for him?

 

[j_garcia]

It doesn't matter the type of connection, the TV does not support 1080p, so it is not possible as I said before. Even if he had HDMI, the display only supports 1080i and the device would detect this and limit the signal to 1080i. Sending a 1080p signal will either result in a blank screen or a weird looking image AFAIK, and all blu-ray players I have seen will not send 1080p via component. If all his set has is component, then yes this is the right connection.

There are systems who are or will be streaming 1080p, not sure about broadcast but I have only seen 1080i for broadcast so far.

 

[jostenmeat]

As we know, nothing is Broadcast in 1080P. Only 1080i. So he has a 1080i HDTV, does that mean he will not ever get 1080P from his 1080P Sony Bluray player?
He just told me his connections are this...
Component cables from 1080i HDTV to Sony BD Player.
Component cables from 1080i HDTV to TIME-WARNER HDDVR STB

Is this the right connection for him?

You got it all right. Even if the TV could do 1080p, component cables don't have the bandwidth anyways.

Put Sony BD menu/setup to output at 1080i. Your link says that only two of the component input arrays on the TV can handle 1080i. That's something to look into.

If he ever upgraded TV, you could see improvements with a 24p capable set, FYI. This TV, like most, has to apply 3:2 pulldown.

 

[Captainmorgan89]

Yep, those are the correct connections. Tell him thats as good as its gonna get!

 

[its phillip]

You got it all right. ...do 1080p, component cables don't have the bandwidth anyways.

You can do 1080p over component, actually.

And in case this isn't obvious to the TC, this post has nothing to do with your tv, sorry.

 

[jostenmeat]

You can do 1080p over component, actually.

You know I've read that before, and after stating it, someone was correcting me to the opposite I think. Anyways, I'm going to refrain from saying that it's one way or the other, if I can help it, or until I know for 100% sure.

 

[its phillip]

I'm not sure when 1080p component inputs became more common on displays (or if they even are), since a lot of earlier displays only accepted 1080p over hdmi. The ps3 will output games in 1080p over component, but not movies. I think the 360 is the same, but perhaps not, since I haven't tried it out. And like j_garcia said, I don't think any blu-ray player will output 1080p over component, but that's because of licensing restrictions or whatever crap it is.

 

[BMXTRIX]

You know I've read that before, and after stating it, someone was correcting me to the opposite I think. Anyways, I'm going to refrain from saying that it's one way or the other, if I can help it, or until I know for 100% sure.

I can tell you that it is 100% for sure that you can send 1080p over component.

I will add:
Just like you are not allowed to upconvert DVD video to more than 480p over component video connections, Blu-ray Disc is limited to 1080i video output over component video.

In fact, almost all analog component video sources never are put out above 1080i video over component even though it is possible to do so.

One of the only, potential, exceptions may be gaming on the PS3. I'm not positive, but this may be possible at 1080p over component video. I would not swear by it and haven't tried it as I'm using HDMI for my PS3 connection right now.

It is extremely rare to see 1080p component. So rare, that it is very close to right to say component doesn't support 1080p. But, more accurate to say that you can't get 1080p from Blu-ray, DVD, or any cable box I'm aware of over component.

Rivrbite - check my follow up response to this over at bigscreenforums.com

 

[Hi Ho]

The Xbox360 produces 1080p over component video. That was the only way to get 1080p out of the original model that did not have HDMI. It will not upconvert DVD's over component video, like all DVD players.

As for the Mitsubishi TV; I don't know about that specific model but many older Mitsubishis only had one component input that did HD (DTV input). The rest were limited to 480p.