Some people have no sense of humor. South Park incurs veiled death threats.

GirgleMirt

GirgleMirt

Audioholic
Girglemirt,

For somebody who is bored by the discussion, you've spent a fair amount of time on this thread. You didn't counter most of my points because it bored you? That's pretty lame.
I went through the ENTIRETY of your last post!!! What do you want me to comment on?

You say that people who believe in God, i.e. religious, are close-minded.
When did I say that?

I would dispute that assertion. I, for one, certainly have doubts.
I don't... Well, about as much doubts as I have vs other fantasices such as santa claus, fairies, leprechauns, ghosts, tarot card reading, astrology, etc. are also possible/real....

Any right thinking person would, when it comes to anything that can't be proven through scientific method. I'm sure most "believers" have questions that cannot be answered.
A reasonable person looks at the evidence. In this case, there's absoltuely no evidence supporting the evidence of a god, or any of their so called miracles. All experiments (great prayer experiment for example) and any examination revealed nothing supernatural in the least.

However, you are thoroughly convinced of something that cannot be proven, i.e. the non-existence of God. Do you realize what that means? It means that atheism is your religion. Ironic, isn't it?
Well it is possible that there's a god. Just extremely unlikely. It's also possible that apples start to fall up instead of down tomorrow morning, or that your head blows up like a balloon and you'll start to fly in the sky with the birds... Just again, looking at the evidence, or lack of, no reason to believe something as silly as religion. It's really not much different from Santa Claus or any other imagined thing/being. It's possible that there really is a santa claus, and he visits every house in the world to bring gifts... Is it not?

From your avatar and the time you've spent on this thread, I can only guess that atheism is your raison d'etre. It took you a while to drag up Richard Dawkins. Now he should start his own religion! He preaches atheism - all that's missing is the church building. I'm not mocking him; he just conforms very closely to the definition of religious
Funny, again, you seem to fail to grasp the meaning of religion:

# a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers that control human destiny; "he lost his faith but not his morality"
# an institution to express belief in a divine power; "he was raised in the Baptist religion"; "a member of his own faith contradicted him"


Is science a religion? Atheism? I don't think so.

Rest assured, I am not trying to convince you that God exists. I would only request that you not be as close-mindedness as those you accuse.
How are you close-minded? Your arguments can be summed up as: There is no God. Atheism good. Religion bad. Repeat.

And, since you have failed to engage in a serious, non-mocking and open-minded discussion, I am giving notice that I will no longer respond to your posts in this thread. Have a great weekend!:)
lol Again, it's just the way to view the reality we live in. Do we embrace the unknown, fantastic, supernatural, without any evidence what so ever? Or do we let our reason help and not our faith/imagination help us determine what is real or not?

And btw, my last posts addressed not your faith, but the effect on religion, which you've seemed to want to support/protect... In truth, you can believe in whatever you want, santa claus if you like... That doesn't bother anyone. What bothers people, for example, is when those silly beliefs threatens all of us and the values we hold dear.
 
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lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
You guys are cute together. I suggest you take this little escapade to PMs though. ;) Neither of you will convince the other both of you are entrenched in your positions. Remember people rarely change without something major happened. I don't see how Girgle can change his position without experience that indicates otherwise to him. GM loves to argue though. I think he finds it fun.

FYI Thor is an Asgard alien that has had much contact with SG-1:p He's really a nice guy.
 
GirgleMirt

GirgleMirt

Audioholic
Hey the day I see anything which hints in the existence of a god, you can be sure I'll be more than willing to jump ship!!! But again, it's going to take more than this to make me change my mind :)


Seriously, I mentioned child indoctrination, I think 99% of believers believe because they were indoctrinated during childhood. If I were to ask people why they believe, well when I do, they just can't answer... They can't find the way to explain why they believe.. It's just faith in the end...

Well... Dan Baker said it best:

Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can’t be taken on its own merits.

And no the toast would not be adequate evidence. No god would choose so insignificant medium as toast to manifest itself. Simply the idea of a god is so ridiculous... To god, we would be nothing but ants, and even then... The idea that god, an omnipotent being would pay so much attention to us, such insignificant beings, is so arrogant and so self centered... *sigh*
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
Not to give the anti-religious fascists another opening to ply their trade, but this recent post fits right in with my original subject matter, before the thread was hijacked by those with axes to grind.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
It really makes one wonder who is really in charge, doesn't it?
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I don't know if this has been mentioned: but this is far from the first movie to receive death threats. Two I recall a great deal of them on were "Dogma" and "The Last Temptation of Christ".
 
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