Installating Audio For a Family Member - WTF?

T2T

T2T

Senior Audioholic
I'm about to take on a project for my mother-in-law by connecting her audio gear in her new condominium. It's a new building and she's on the top floor - so, there's access to the attic. However, for the past month, she's had new light fixtures installed, a 220V receptacle installed by running line from the fuse box to the kitchen - which meant throwing out a basically new gas range. In its place, is a new Frigidaire electric range. New hologen can lights were installed in the kitchen as well as rope lighting above the cabinetry. All of this meant for many drywall holes to be patched - which meant for a fair amount of dust. Oh, I forgot - the new carpet was ripped up and removed so some other "new" carpet could be installed that she really wanted as well as all the walls on this new condo were repainted a color very close to what the builder provided. Needless to say, she spent many days cleaning up all the dust from the drywall sanding.

This left one project on the list. Installation of her audio gear, which consists of a Sony stereo receiver, Sony 5-disc changer and 4 Bose speakers. Though, only 2 of the Bose will be installed since her new place is smaller than her previous home. Cognizant of all the dust, etc. that had been placed on her home, I thought of the Rocketfish wireless sender/receiver kit for speakers. However, she was a bit undecided on the placement of the speakers, and this kit would still mean trying to hide the receiver and some of the speaker wires. Plus, I've read that the receiver for the Rocketfish has to basically be reset each time you use it - not too pretty if you ask me.

I did some more digging and came up with cord covers that would attach to the wall and could be simply painted the wall color. I could run the cord covers over the molding of one of the doorways and then through one wall so her Bose speakers could be placed on top of her china cabinet. I'd only use about 10 feet of the cord concealing material and none of the wires would be exposed. I explained to her we could separate the speakers about 6' apart due to the width of the cabinet. We could start with the larger Bose speakers - and, if she felt they were too visible, we could swap-in the smaller pair.

We had the discussion over the phone. The first question from here I get is - what's going to happen to the stereophonic sound if both speakers are placed on the top of the cabinet? I explain in small detail that the detection of such would be minimal. I realize this is a concern for her. However, following our conversation, I did run into Home Depot and purchased all of the necessary pieces to conceal the speaker cables.

On my drive home, I thought of many answers to her question - though, I'm sure she'd not care to hear them.

1) Well, your speaker and listening arrangement isn't of an equilateral arrangement, so there's always going to be some conflict with the stereophonic effect.

2) Most recordings nowadays are done so horribly, it's hard find recordings with good stereo effect.

3) With your level of equipment, you're already at a disadvantage. You're not running $10,000 worth of McIntosh gear driving $50,000 Wilson speakers.

4) Your ears are 79 years old. What do you really expect to hear?

5) From the way your gear has been setup in your previous homes (one was an in-house system with a wall-mounted cassette player and radio with in-ceiling speakers; the other was with the Sony and Bose gear) - you really haven't ever had a "true" listening system or experience. Those configurations have been mainly to provide ambient music - much as this latest setup will provide.

I could go on ... :rolleyes:
 
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emrliquidlife

Junior Audioholic
I could be way off base here, but perhaps she was trying to bond with you?
 
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ArthurPE

Banned
it is amazing that a 79 year old woman would have the insight to ask that question...really
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
We had the discussion over the phone. The first question from here I get is - what's going to happen to the stereophonic sound if both speakers are placed on the top of the cabinet? I explain in small detail that the detection of such would be minimal. I realize this is a concern for her. However, following our conversation, I did run into Home Depot and purchased all of the necessary pieces to conceal the speaker cables.

On my drive home, I thought of many answers to her question - though, I'm sure she'd not care to hear them.

1) Well, your speaker and listening arrangement isn't of an equilateral arrangement, so there's always going to be some conflict with the stereophonic effect.

2) Most recordings nowadays are done so horribly, it's hard find recordings with good stereo effect.

3) With your level of equipment, you're already at a disadvantage. You're not running $10,000 worth of McIntosh gear driving $50,000 Wilson speakers.

4) Your ears are 79 years old. What do you really expect to hear?

5) From the way your gear has been setup in your previous homes (one was an in-house system with a wall-mounted cassette player and radio with in-ceiling speakers; the other was with the Sony and Bose gear) - you really haven't ever had a "true" listening system or experience. Those configurations have been mainly to provide ambient music - much as this latest setup will provide.

I could go on ... :rolleyes:
"What are your expectations, regarding the sound/video (when it applies) quality?" should always be the first question asked. It keeps people from finding out after the installation that A) the person doesn't give a rat's butt about sound quality, as long as it looks good/is invisible or B) they expect absolute perfection from a clock radio.

OMG!!!!! YOU'RE DOING THIS FOR YOUR MOTHER IN-LAW?????:eek:

If it goes wrong, you'll never hear the end of it. Nice knowing you.:D
 
T2T

T2T

Senior Audioholic
If it goes wrong, you'll never hear the end of it. Nice knowing you.
Thanks. That's what I needed. :eek: She's actually quite good at making people feel guilty. I've known it for the past 24 years. My wife has had me stay away from the other projects in her place because she knows how her own mother can be at times.


it is amazing that a 79 year old woman would have the insight to ask that question...really
Actually, we've had several audio conversations over the years. She's tried to engage in conversations as far back as 24 years ago when she wanted to buy a system at that time. However, her questions were basically formed from the advertisements in magazines (such as Architectural Digest, etc.). Years back, she'd ask about brands such as Luxman, when they had a bit of better presence in the market.



I could be way off base here, but perhaps she was trying to bond with you?
Possibly. Though, she's tried through conversations with my daughter to insert her "digs" here and there such as commenting how sick she is of the station my daughter picked for her on her Bose wave radio. Yet, she has the capability to switch to other stations. I should have probably just hooked her 5-disc changer to the Bose wave radio a few weeks ago. That would have allowed her to play her CDs and give her some more options.
 
T2T

T2T

Senior Audioholic
Tell her to go buy a Bose system.
She has a Bose wave radio and 4 Bose speakers as it is. I don't think the bass module would benefit the situation any more.

Success!! It took me 4 hours to run about 60 feet of speaker cable, drill through 2 walls, install about 15 linear feet of the cord hiding material as well as 3 corners. I then applied a little bit of quick-dry caulking to make a few of the drilled holes a bit neater and painted over those areas. I then vacuumed up the carpet so it didn't look like I walked all over the place.

I ended up using the smaller Bose speakers. Though they sounded a bit anemic, the Sony receiver had a bass boost button. Hit that ... the sound was now instantly fuller. Good for her listening, but not so much for mine. I'm home now and she's still out shopping so I don't have her final impressions, but I think all should be OK. Before she left, I dry fit some of the cable hiding material around her door casing - she liked the look of it. :)
 

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