new lcd tv makes picture look like live recording?

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pjoseph

Full Audioholic
I recently purchased a SHARP 47" LC47SB57UT 120 Hz 1080p LCD HDTV HI DEF

Not exactly sure how to describe how the picture looks besides saying it looks like it is recorded live.
does anyone know how to fix this.

thanks
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Turn off frame interpolation.

Basically it looks like an animation, but with real people.

I tend to call it a strobing effect. Like each frame is 'perfect' without blurring, but then the next frame is ALSO perfect (no blurring) so they move from one spot to the next to the next without any proper motion - which can only be shown by having blurring on the frame.

Not sure what Sharp calls this anti-blurring technology, but frame interpolation is usually something you can reduce, or turn off in the setup menus for your display.
 
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bradknob

Audiophyte
A friend of mine down the street has a sony bravia lcd and it has a feature called motion smooth ( something like that) that makes movies look like what i think ur talking about. either way its pretty annoying, but it can be turned off or down. in samsung its called cinema smooth. look for something in the menu along those lines and turn it off. good luck
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
From the Sharp website...

"120Hz Fine Motion Enhanced"

The problem is there is no manual on their website or that I found easily online, so I can't be more specific.
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
That's the bummer with LCD, you either live with motion blur or live with a weird, "soap opera like" picture.
 
BruZZi

BruZZi

Full Audioholic
From the Sharp website...

"120Hz Fine Motion Enhanced"

The problem is there is no manual on their website or that I found easily online, so I can't be more specific.

He has to turn the "Fine Motion Enhanced" Option off.

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gmichael

gmichael

Audioholic Spartan
Live recording?

Am I the only one who is wondering what a live recording is? Isn't that an oxymoron?
 
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CypherMax

Junior Audioholic
LCD= everything looks like it been shot on a home video camera... nature of the beast sorry bout that.
 
BMXTRIX

BMXTRIX

Audioholic Warlord
Frame Interpolation makes movies look like video. Kinda of Live Video Feed or Soap Opera.


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See, I've never felt that way.

I had a decent Sony camcorder that had different shooting mode speeds, including sports. The sports mode increased the shutter speed, without adjusting the frames per second, and the end result looks exactly like what frame interpolation does.

Motion REQUIRES blur. Wave your hand in front of your face - it's not a stop motion hand moving back and forth, but a blurred hand.

Frame interpolation, at medium levels can look very good, if it doesn't overly deblur what we are seeing, but if you remove blur completely, then you end up with what video games looked like ten years ago. Video game manufacturers spent a ton of time and money ADDING blur because of how much more lifelike it made the image.

Now, LCD manufacturers are removing the blur, and what we end up with is extremely unnatural 'video game' looking images. I've never seen a soap opera which has looked as bad as heavy frame interpolation does on the LCD displays.
 
Patrukas777

Patrukas777

Senior Audioholic
I tend to get motion sickness when watching fast paced scenes running in that mode...its horrible. Takes away the cinematic look (ruins the movie).
 
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bradknob

Audiophyte
^^^^ditto..... a few of my friends are wowed at how "realistic" it looks, i think just because it looks different from any other picture theyve watched before. When i try to tell them that what they are seeing isnt realistic, they say im jealous that my plasma doesnt look as good. Ill have to explain to them the hand waving/blur trick to them then i watch my plasma by myself with out the sea sicknss
 
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skers_54

Full Audioholic
See, I've never felt that way.

I had a decent Sony camcorder that had different shooting mode speeds, including sports. The sports mode increased the shutter speed, without adjusting the frames per second, and the end result looks exactly like what frame interpolation does.

Motion REQUIRES blur. Wave your hand in front of your face - it's not a stop motion hand moving back and forth, but a blurred hand.

Frame interpolation, at medium levels can look very good, if it doesn't overly deblur what we are seeing, but if you remove blur completely, then you end up with what video games looked like ten years ago. Video game manufacturers spent a ton of time and money ADDING blur because of how much more lifelike it made the image.

Now, LCD manufacturers are removing the blur, and what we end up with is extremely unnatural 'video game' looking images. I've never seen a soap opera which has looked as bad as heavy frame interpolation does on the LCD displays.
BMX is absolutely right about the blur. The blur is necessary because of how our eyes respond to motion. When following a moving object, the eye jumps small distances rather than moving continuously. This means that only small portions are actually "seen" while the rest is inferred by the brain. This results in the moving object being relatively in focus while the rest is blurry. The brain actually uses this blur to help recognize motion. Since the TV isn't moving, this blur needs to be present in the source material for the brain to interpret on-screen motion as realistic. Removing it eliminates a natural cue for motion, making the images look unnatural.
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
I don't care for that effect, the new PowerDVD 10 has the ability to create that effect on regular dvd, but not blu ray... it's kinda cool to use to show people and some like the effect, but I can't stand it.
 
SopRage

SopRage

Audioholic
It boggles my mind that frame interpolation is considered a desireable "feature." My brother, for example, is really excited about it because he considers it "the next big leap in video technology!"

For those of us who are heavy gamers it's even LESS appealing since it adds to the processing time for each frame.

Thanks but no thanks.
 
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