Polk Monitor 50 not very loud

BudgetHT

BudgetHT

Audioholic
You have a problem in the system somewhere. Either operator error(hook up/wiring issues) or you have a bad receiver.
No it shouldn't click like that. I had a Denon AVR-590. I sent it back and bought the Yamaha RX-V665. The Denon sounded great and did not crackle or click when raising the volume.
I never did run audyssey, I only had it for a day.
Also, although not high end, the Monitor 50s will get loud in a small room like yours.
 
jeffsg4mac

jeffsg4mac

Republican Poster Boy
Your expecting too much from a dual 5 1/4 inch design. I set up a friends system with the same fronts, and it sounded pretty good and was loud but not ear bleeding. If you push them hard they are going to give out. Crossover setting on those would be probably be best at 80hz-100hz. If you really want louder than you need more of a speaker. A set of floor standing Klipsch would suit you well I think.
 
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cmstric

Junior Audioholic
Your expecting too much from a dual 5 1/4 inch design. I set up a friends system with the same fronts, and it sounded pretty good and was loud but not ear bleeding. If you push them hard they are going to give out. Crossover setting on those would be probably be best at 80hz-100hz. If you really want louder than you need more of a speaker. A set of floor standing Klipsch would suit you well I think.
i thought about going with the klipsch rf-82 but didnt know how good they truly are.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
Your expecting too much from a dual 5 1/4 inch design. I set up a friends system with the same fronts, and it sounded pretty good and was loud but not ear bleeding. If you push them hard they are going to give out. Crossover setting on those would be probably be best at 80hz-100hz. If you really want louder than you need more of a speaker. A set of floor standing Klipsch would suit you well I think.
i have demoed the polk 50 monitors before using a 50wpc receiver and they are VERY LOUD, i honestly dont think its just the speakers arent loud, something has got to be wrong with the system, 90wpc is a good amount of power for most all speakers, most of the time at a normal volume you wont be using much more then 30-70w average (rough guess from my own measurments) so i dont see the issue being the speakers unless the speakers have something wrong with them. OP have you gone into the setup menu and looked through the speaker settings? it should give you a choice to boost or decrease SPL for each channel by -10 - +10dB if its at -10dB you certainly will have an issue. on my receiver i have all my speakers set to +10dB because i dont have the most efficient speakers in the world.
 
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cmstric

Junior Audioholic
i have demoed the polk 50 monitors before using a 50wpc receiver and they are VERY LOUD, i honestly dont think its just the speakers arent loud, something has got to be wrong with the system, 90wpc is a good amount of power for most all speakers, most of the time at a normal volume you wont be using much more then 30-70w average (rough guess from my own measurments) so i dont see the issue being the speakers unless the speakers have something wrong with them. OP have you gone into the setup menu and looked through the speaker settings? it should give you a choice to boost or decrease SPL for each channel by -10 - +10dB if its at -10dB you certainly will have an issue. on my receiver i have all my speakers set to +10dB because i dont have the most efficient speakers in the world.
i dont know exaclty where you are speaking of . i dont have the receiver running to the tv , just audio to the tv so i cant pull up settings on my tv for the receiver. im not sure if you can do what you are saying from the receiver front disply? actually i think i do and i have each set to about +2.5db
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
you should be able to access a menu on the led diplay of your receiver, if you cant figure it out give me the model name of you receiver and i will check the manual and find out myself.
 
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cmstric

Junior Audioholic
you should be able to access a menu on the led diplay of your receiver, if you cant figure it out give me the model name of you receiver and i will check the manual and find out myself.
yeah i figured it out. it basically increases the loudness of the speakers.

im trying to understand exactly what audyssey is doing bc when its off the speakers are quite and with no base.

when i switch it back on the speakers become much louder with a noticeable increase in bass.

bass i couldnt get just by increasing the bass level on the receiver.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
if im not mistaken, audessy is an automatic smart-eq, it analyzes the frequency levels of your speakers, and then boosts, or reduces certain frequencies in amplitude to attempt to get as flat a response as possible.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
if im not mistaken, audessy is an automatic smart-eq, it analyzes the frequency levels of your speakers, and then boosts, or reduces certain frequencies in amplitude to attempt to get as flat a response as possible.
You are correct, but it does more.

Here is my experience with Audyssey.

In my system the frequency response correction did not have much to do, and the HF boost was harmful.

The most useful aspect in my system, was the re timing of the system, LFE signal excepted.

What surprised, no shocked me, was that it figured out how this system was supposed to be set up, pretty much anyway.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
re timing as in adjusting delay for each channel so that the sound arrives to the listener at the same exact time from all channels?
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
re timing as in adjusting delay for each channel so that the sound arrives to the listener at the same exact time from all channels?
Yes, you measure in sic positions, and the system is supposed to time the speakers to give the best overall spatial effect for all listeners.

In that I would say it achieved its goal. I have to say, I don't think my front row has suffered and the rear row is certainly improved, no doubt about it.



The delays were changed significantly from measured distances.

So at least in my system the only function Audyssey is providing is setting the delays, and I had to override the LFE output delay, for reasons mentioned in my review. I have canceled the frequency response corrections, as they were not significant in the bass and mid band, and harmful in the top end. Audyssey did not change my speaker set up or levels, which in itself I find remarkable.

When I made an error in the response of the rear surrounds on purpose it caught it right away and made an appropriate correction, pretty much to the db.
 
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skers_54

Full Audioholic
i have demoed the polk 50 monitors before using a 50wpc receiver and they are VERY LOUD, i honestly dont think its just the speakers arent loud, something has got to be wrong with the system, 90wpc is a good amount of power for most all speakers, most of the time at a normal volume you wont be using much more then 30-70w average (rough guess from my own measurments) so i dont see the issue being the speakers unless the speakers have something wrong with them. OP have you gone into the setup menu and looked through the speaker settings? it should give you a choice to boost or decrease SPL for each channel by -10 - +10dB if its at -10dB you certainly will have an issue. on my receiver i have all my speakers set to +10dB because i dont have the most efficient speakers in the world.
Just an FYI, but boosting all your channels by the same amount is the same as increasing the master volume. The channel gains are relative so you don't gain more output; just an increase in output at the same volume setting. The exception is Audyssey offsets, as those are calculated so that Dynamic EQ can work properly.
 
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yepimonfire

Audioholic Samurai
not so with my receiver. if i set the gains all to -10db, i have to increase the volume by 20 notches to get the same output
 
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cmstric

Junior Audioholic
I still have my concerns about the clicking. If the tv goes from a commercial to a show and has a black screen for a few seconds and i crank the volume it doesnt click. it only clicks when there is something going on audio wise and i crank it up or down. the louder the volume the louder the clicks sound through the speakers.
 
BudgetHT

BudgetHT

Audioholic
I still have my concerns about the clicking. If the tv goes from a commercial to a show and has a black screen for a few seconds and i crank the volume it doesnt click. it only clicks when there is something going on audio wise and i crank it up or down. the louder the volume the louder the clicks sound through the speakers.
You mean when you're watching TV and it goes from commercial back to program you get a slight click/pop sound? That's normal especially on SD programming. That is just the source material. It's more prevalent on SD programming than HD programming.
But your saying in the the middle of watching a program you can turn the volume up and down you get a clicking sound? You know, you may just have a dirty rheostat/potentiometer in the volume knob.
 
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cmstric

Junior Audioholic
You mean when you're watching TV and it goes from commercial back to program you get a slight click/pop sound? That's normal especially on SD programming. That is just the source material. It's more prevalent on SD programming than HD programming.
But your saying in the the middle of watching a program you can turn the volume up and down you get a clicking sound? You know, you may just have a dirty rheostat/potentiometer in the volume knob.
no it doesnt happen changing from commercial to show. it only happens as i increase or decrease the volume.

what is rheostat/potentiometer?
 

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