Nomo

Nomo

Audioholic Samurai
Well, it is a free country. People have a right to express their opinions.
Even B-Nut. (sorta) ;)

The quest to find who dunnit is a waste of time. IMDO.

Do I miss him? Umm, no.
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
Politcal bend aside, what I don't like of any politician is arrogance. I get the sense that Obama and his group got in there and like most arrogant people, find themselves terribly in over their heads. It seems most everything is mismanaged at best. I think this administration really comes off looking like amateurs and it's not good for the country regardless of your political ideolgy. I didn't care much for Bill Clinton, but he came across as in control and deliberate. Even if you didn't agree with his politics, you could feel, or at least I felt, that he was in control and had a handle on things. Bush very much the same way. Both men and those they surrounded themselves with, led our nation with a humble yet decisive stance. They took ownership. This group not so much.
 
adk highlander

adk highlander

Sith Lord
Politcal bend aside, what I don't like of any politician is arrogance. I get the sense that Obama and his group got in there and like most arrogant people, find themselves terribly in over their heads. It seems most everything is mismanaged at best. I think this administration really comes off looking like amateurs and it's not good for the country regardless of your political ideolgy. I didn't care much for Bill Clinton, but he came across as in control and deliberate. Even if you didn't agree with his politics, you could feel, or at least I felt, that he was in control and had a handle on things. Bush very much the same way. Both men and those they surrounded themselves with, led our nation with a humble yet decisive stance. They took ownership. This group not so much.
Chris I have to disagree. How can you say a man has quotes like the following could make you feel he was in control:

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."

And where and how did you find Ashcroft and Cheney humble in any way or form?
 
darien87

darien87

Audioholic Spartan
Politcal bend aside, what I don't like of any politician is arrogance. I get the sense that Obama and his group got in there and like most arrogant people, find themselves terribly in over their heads. It seems most everything is mismanaged at best. I think this administration really comes off looking like amateurs and it's not good for the country regardless of your political ideolgy. I didn't care much for Bill Clinton, but he came across as in control and deliberate. Even if you didn't agree with his politics, you could feel, or at least I felt, that he was in control and had a handle on things. Bush very much the same way. Both men and those they surrounded themselves with, led our nation with a humble yet decisive stance. They took ownership. This group not so much.
Wow. Bush gave you the feeling he was in control? Sorry, but I had the EXACT opposite impression of him. Also, I never expected to hear "Bush" and "humble" in the same sentence.
 
Rickster71

Rickster71

Audioholic Spartan
I think it's just human nature for anyone in the public eye to have a few memorable misquotes every now and then.:D

First, here are some quotes from Pres Obama; and after that are more from Pres Bush:D


"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009


"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)



"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)

"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008

"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008

"Just this past week, we passed out of the out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."

"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers (Watch video clip)

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" --after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters


Some more from Pres Bush:

"One of the very difficult parts of the decision I made on the financial crisis was to use hardworking people's money to help prevent there to be a crisis." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"I'm telling you there's an enemy that would like to attack America, Americans, again. There just is. That's the reality of the world. And I wish him all the very best." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009

"In terms of the economy, look, I inherited a recession, I am ending on a recession." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Jan. 12, 2009


"I guess it's OK to call the secretary of education here 'buddy.' That means friend." --George W. Bush, Philadelphia, Jan. 8, 2009



"I didn't grow up in the ocean -- as a matter of fact -- near the ocean -- I grew up in the desert. Therefore, it was a pleasant contrast to see the ocean. And I particularly like it when I'm fishing." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 26, 2008

"Anyone engaging in illegal financial transactions will be caught and persecuted." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2008

"We're fixing to go down to Galveston and obviously are going to see a devastated part of this fantastic state." --George W. Bush, Houston, Sept. 16, 2008

"The people in Louisiana must know that all across our country there's a lot of prayer -- prayer for those whose lives have been turned upside down. And I'm one of them." --George W. Bush, Baton Rouge, La., Sept. 3, 2008

"First of all, I don't see America having problems." --George W. Bush, interview with Bob Costas at the 2008 Olympics, Beijing, China, Aug. 10, 2008

"I'm coming as the president of a friend, and I'm coming as a sportsman." --George W. Bush, on his trip to the Olympics in China, Washington, D.C., July 30, 2008

"There's no question about it. Wall Street got drunk -- that's one of the reasons I asked you to turn off the TV cameras -- it got drunk and now it's got a hangover. The question is how long will it sober up and not try to do all these fancy financial instruments." --George W. Bush, speaking at a private fundraiser, Houston, Texas, July 18, 2008 (Watch video clip)

"I think it was in the Rose Garden where I issued this brilliant statement: If I had a magic wand -- but the president doesn't have a magic wand. You just can't say, 'low gas.'" --George W. Bush, Washington D.C., July 15, 2008

"And they have no disregard for human life." --George W. Bush, on the brutality of Afghan fighters, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008

"The economy is growing, productivity is high, trade is up, people are working. It's not as good as we'd like, but -- and to the extent that we find weakness, we'll move." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 15, 2008

"Goodbye from the world's biggest polluter." --George W. Bush, in parting words to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy at his final G-8 Summit, punching the air and grinning widely as the two leaders looked on in shock, Rusutsu, Japan, July 10, 2008
 
itschris

itschris

Moderator
My comments were more in the general sense. When 9/11 happened, I felt confident that everything was and would be done to protect this country and that it would be done swiftly with purpose. And whether you agree with his politics or not, think he's a dullard... whatever... the country of our survived and pretty much weathered a course changing event.

Again, didn't much like Clinton, but felt things could or would be handled. I don't have that confidence now. If something absolutely catastrphic happened like 9/11, I fear this current Administration wouuld be like the keystone cops. Even some of the most liberal media centers have commented on how amateur this Administration comes across on any issue of substance.

I don't think Obama is a bad person. I think if his ideas were more centered as opposed to being far left, if he had waited just awhile longer, maybe took the VP job behind Hillary, and been there for 4 or 8 years, and gained experience, got a better handle on what really matters and what needs to be done to keep things going, just having some executive experience, it may have tempered his far left liberal bend and he could have been one of our great presidents. In some ways he's like Clinton, he's got an undeniable charisma that makes you want to follow him. Unless he does a complete 180, i think his presidency will be little more than a footnote.
 
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