SACD/DVDA processing

[Jefft54]

I thought I knew a lot about this stuff but evidently not enough. I just bought an elite 23 which processes sacd and dvda. Would I still need to buy a universal player like the oppo 80 to benefit from sacd or does the elite process it on any BD player.
Thanks

 

[j_garcia]

The player has to be capable of reading the discs, not your receiver. Your receiver can handle the processing, but if the player can't play the discs, then it doesn't matter. See the other thread.

 

[john72953]

The player has to be capable of reading the discs, not your receiver. Your receiver can handle the processing, but if the player can't play the discs, then it doesn't matter. See the other thread.

That's not entirely correct. Both the PLAYER and the RECEIVER have to have the ability to handle DSD over HDMI. If one doesn't (and it doesn't matter which of the two it is) then you are not getting the optimum benefit of SACD.

John

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Kids, Don't fight !!!
Both john72953 and j_garcia are right...
First, make sure your dvd/br player could play SACD AT ALL (most of them don't)

Second, like john mentioned - unless BOTH AVR and player support DSD over HDMI (HDMI 1.2 or later), you'll be FORCED to use analog interconnects from you players to AVR.

Example: My AVR is HDMI 1.3 , but my DVD player is older, so while the later is universal player and CAN play SACD, it's only HDMI 1.0 - so I can forget about both HDMI/SPD-IF if I want to play SACD on my system....

 

[j_garcia]

That's not entirely correct. Both the PLAYER and the RECEIVER have to have the ability to handle DSD over HDMI. If one doesn't (and it doesn't matter which of the two it is) then you are not getting the optimum benefit of SACD.

John

He said his receiver can handle the decoding, so presumably that means it is 1.2a or higher. I was speaking specifically about his receiver based on what he said, not all receivers.

I hear a lot of people complain about DSD to PCM conversion and to be honest, I think that argument is bunk because it sounds great in either arrangement to me.

 

[john72953]

Kids, Don't fight !!!
Both john72953 and j_garcia are right...
First, make sure your dvd/br player could play SACD AT ALL (most of them don't)

Second, like john mentioned - unless BOTH AVR and player support DSD over HDMI (HDMI 1.2 or later), you'll be FORCED to use analog interconnects from you players to AVR.
Example: My AVR is HDMI 1.3 , but my DVD player is older, so while the later is universal player and CAN play SACD, it's only HDMI 1.0 - so I can forget about both HDMI/SPD-IF if I want to play SACD on my system....

Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I listen to most SACD this way. However, Dire Straits - Brothers In Arms is absolutely stunning with DSD>HDMI and my preferred setting for that disc.

John

 

[john72953]

He said his receiver can handle the decoding, so presumably that means it is 1.2a or higher. I was speaking specifically about his receiver based on what he said, not all receivers.

I hear a lot of people complain about DSD to PCM conversion and to be honest, I think that argument is bunk because it sounds great in either arrangement to me.

I agree with you completely. There ain't nothing wrong with DSD>PCM or ANALOG. I suppose all I was saying is that in order for anyone to obtain DSD as intended (1-bit 2.822 MHz) it must be supported by both the receiver and the player.

John