WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
The Bosche really does seem to be the best portable contractor table saw available based on my research.

I tried the Dewalt, Bosche and Rigid, and inspected a lot of other units(none of which were in the league of the Rigid or Bosche). The Dewalt is basicly a joke. I love DeWalt stuff usually, and have A LOT of the commercial DeWalt tools, but their portable contractor table saw is not even worth looking at IMO(no where near the quality you would expect based on their other tools). It just wreaks of 'cheap'. The Bosche has the best/most accurate stock fence and measurement indicators. The Rigid is nice, but it's measurement indicator is not a very good design (a piece of tape measure, ribbeted, and on roller bearing to slide out with the extension fence - and it has slack in it) and it's fence does not lock down dead square/ true as reliably as the Bosche fence. The price has gone up on the Bosche since I purchased mine a couple of years ago. The Bosche, btw, has a new update; a new superior safety guide over the blade. Mine has the older, standard safety guide. I recommend getting all of the optional extension adapters (rear and left side extenders) when you purchase the saw(you will probably have to order the optional parts online).

-Chris
 
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lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
The Bosche really does seem to be the best portable contractor table saw available based on my research.

I tried the Dewalt, Bosche and Rigid, and inspected a lot of other units(none of which were in the league of the Rigid or Bosche). The Dewalt is basicly a joke. I love DeWalt stuff usually, and have A LOT of the commercial DeWalt tools, but their portable contractor table saw is not even worth looking at IMO(no where near the quality you would expect based on their other tools). It just wreaks of 'cheap'. The Bosche has the best/most accurate stock fence and measurement indicators. The Rigid is nice, but it's measurement indicator is not a very good design (a piece of tape measure, ribbeted, and on roller bearing to slide out with the extension fence - and it has slack in it) and it's fence does not lock down dead square/ true as reliably as the Bosche fence. The price has gone up on the Bosche since I purchased mine a couple of years ago. The Bosche, btw, has a new update; a new superior safety guide over the blade. Mine has the older, standard safety guide. I recommend getting all of the optional extension adapters (rear and left side extenders) when you purchase the saw(you will probably have to order the optional parts online).

-Chris
You may require the portability of a Bosch, but Grizzly does have a very good sale on their saws atm(made by the same company as powermatic(high quality)) Powermatic saws last decades typically. As far as fences go you can always get an aftermarket fence if necessary. The Incra system is around 300 dollars and is a precision device. Part of me is still tempted by the pull down saw idea, but the ability to cut dado grooves makes the table saw very appealing.

Anything beyond the grizzly is overkill for a hobbyist according to the woodworkers I've discussed this with. I'm pretty sold on going that route when the time come. My wife has demanded cats if I get a saw though. Little does she know I am a cat.:D
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
The Bosche, btw, has a new update; a new superior safety guide over the blade. Mine has the older, standard safety guide. I recommend getting all of the optional extension adapters (rear and left side extenders) when you purchase the saw(you will probably have to order the optional parts online).

-Chris
If that new piece moves up and down with the blade, it's called a 'riving knife' and is the only way a European saw is available. It's not supposed to be removed for any reason, too. Dado sets aren't readily available there, either. More US market saws are coming out with riving knife all the time and for general use, it's a good idea but for dado and kerf cuts, it's in the way.
 
WmAx

WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
If that new piece moves up and down with the blade, it's called a 'riving knife' and is the only way a European saw is available. It's not supposed to be removed for any reason, too. Dado sets aren't readily available there, either. More US market saws are coming out with riving knife all the time and for general use, it's a good idea but for dado and kerf cuts, it's in the way.
It already had a riving knife. But the blade safety cover is completely different: improved on the newest models.

-Chris
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
It already had a riving knife. But the blade safety cover is completely different: improved on the newest models.

-Chris
It already has a riving knife, or it has a splitter? Riving knives have been pretty rare on saws for the US market.
 
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motomouse

Enthusiast
Iam working as a finish carpenter and from my expirience (8 years)Delta and Jet are very good dont know about grizzly never use one. Ridgid TS 3650 you can get for around 500$ and I think for your needs will be enough. I was working on that model for over a year never have a problem. Dont buy a bosch I use the one on the picture and I hate it for this kind of money you can go with the ridgid model.
 
Geno

Geno

Senior Audioholic
For the sake of accuracy, we're talking about three distinctly different types of tablesaws. The Bosch, DeWalt, etc are called 'portable jobsite saws' and are meant for that purpose - to be hauled around in a pickup for on-site construction projects. BTW, the Bosch was recently rated the best of these saws by far. Second are the 'contractor' tablesaws which have legs(but not wheels) and will serve most hobbyist woodworkers quite well. Delta, Jet, Ridgid, Grizzly, and many other companies sell these in the $400 - $600 range. Next are the cabinet saws, which have enclosed bases, motors, and big, heavy cast-iron tops & trunions, good dust collection and usually 3HP motors. The major brands are Delta, Jet, Powermatic, Grizzly, Shop Fox, Bridgewood, and Saw Stop. These babies are for commercial shops or whackjobs like me who want the Mercedes Benz of saws. They cost anywhere from $900 to well over $3000, but will last a lifetime. Almost all these saws are made in Taiwan and China these days, but the best brands have competent quality inspectors on site to keep their reputations up.
Also, most of the new saws are equipped with riving knives which greatly reduce the danger of kickback when ripping wood. The Saw Stop has a mechanism which disengages the blade in a couple of milliseconds if it contacts flesh (or a hot dog).
 
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hospitalityjoe

Enthusiast
Wishing

I know this is kind of a DIY deal, but when we get a house one of the first things I'm looking to purchase is a table saw. Thanks to Highfigh

He pointed me to the great deal on the Grizzly saws. Which seems to now be the front runner. Seeing as they are on an insane sale right now.

Just thought I'd see what others where using. I want to do panel for speakers(obvious), but I'd also like to do shelves maybe some cabinets etc.
Wished I had a tablesaw versus a crosscut/miter,, my bad!
Lately been doing the most finish carpentry ever in my whole life and have discovered that even though I can do it, I don't like it. LOL.
Buy a bank building built in 1906 and turn it into a restaraunt, I have learned lots trust me.
Been a fantastic reason to buy more audio gear, and for that my ears are digging it.
Joe, a cut above.
 
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Hi Ho

Hi Ho

Audioholic Samurai
Childs toys! :D My dad has a Darra James model 170 table saw from the 1930's or 40's that makes most modern saws look like tin cans. It runs off 220V. I don't have a picture of it but it looks like this one minus that rig on the top.



My dad's saw is in excellent condition. It looks much nicer than the one in that picture. and it is a pleasure to use. I won't be able to afford one that nice when I finally buy one for myself. :(
 
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audiofox

Full Audioholic
Having had a couple of near catastrophes (but without losing any digits) with standard table saws, my vote is for the Saw Stop, who now make three models. They cost more than their competitor's models of the same size/power, but if I needed to buy one today, I would spend that extra money-my fingers and thumbs are definitely worth it.
 
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audiofox

Full Audioholic
Childs toys! :D My dad has a Darra James model 170 table saw from the 1930's or 40's that makes most modern saws look like tin cans. It runs off 220V. I don't have a picture of it but it looks like this one minus that rig on the top.



My dad's saw is in excellent condition. It looks much nicer than the one in that picture. and it is a pleasure to use. I won't be able to afford one that nice when I finally buy one for myself. :(
That's quite a beast-is that a power feeder on the top?
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Having had a couple of near catastrophes (but without losing any digits) with standard table saws, my vote is for the Saw Stop, who now make three models. They cost more than their competitor's models of the same size/power, but if I needed to buy one today, I would spend that extra money-my fingers and thumbs are definitely worth it.
I do plan to use push blocks and other safety equipment.

Kickbacks seem to be the greatest danger in my experience. I would love to have a saw stop, but I don't have 3k and the contractor saw is 1500(simply out of my budget) If I ran a woodshop I'd have all sawstop table saws.
 
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westcott

Audioholic General
I would recommend a contractors saw as a minimum. You will not be happy with a table top, especialy if you want to do cabinet grade work (speaker enclosures).

I built this kitchen with a Delta Professional Contractors Saw. Its not finished but I will start staining them Monday.

Custom Solid Wood Kitchen


I am going to upgrade to the Grizzly 1023RLX if I can secure more carpentry work.

Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
 
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