So to recap...
"Wah, I posted something and no one read it..."
So we're all stupid and guilty of not exercizing our rightful duties to look over every single Fortune 1,000,000,000 company's outlandish claims that their technology vastly improves over tried and true methods researched over decades and put into place by people with more than a mortgaged garage and a $15,000 loan from their mom.
We get it... and we humbly apologize for hurting your feelings. Frankly, however, while we're interested in new things, don't confuse our general interest with an obligation to investigate your claims or spend the time and energy to set up a test of your unproven product based on some testimonials from kool-aid drinking fans.
So, in conclusion: It's not a conspiracy. You're just a person who posted something and no one cared.
That's a cheap shot, especially for an administrator. Why are you so hostile?
I've gotten a few things off my chest and have settled back down to the business at hand - trying to introduce this forum to better sound through a new technology. Adwilk was correct in his comments, the content of my posts are educational, and he has given a fair assessment of a couple of our ETL based products. To characterize him as a kool-aid drinking fan disrespects one of your most well-respected forum members.
You nailed it on one point: I am now only a one-man dog & pony show working out of my home; but you have got to start somewhere. However, the customers for the TBI Sound products include both high end sound system users plus well known companies who have licensed the use of the ETL technology. They include Sharp, Marantz, ASUS and others that already have their products on the market. Then there are several other licensees who have not yet introduced there own products but have them under development with ETL technology. They include manufacturers of laptop computers, inexpensive headphones and cell phone speakers - all of which are notorious for their lousy sound. There has always been a general improvement in sound quality and presentation in all of these products, and that is where the ETL technology has been validated over and over.
Historically, since the 1920's, nobody has been able to understand how to control the resonance problems behind the driver in conventional loudspeakers. How to make the box sound disappear. That is the Achilles' heel of the sound industry and yet it has not been addressed in the past until ETL technology hit the streets about six years ago. Restricted speaker placement, equalization, room treatments, etc. have been used to compensate for loudspeaker problems such as cone breakup, boomy bass and standing waves/reflections in the listening room environment. But the problem has always been and still is, the critical dampening of the speaker enclosure so that the driver responds only in real time to the signal; i.e., without overhang or resonance after the signal is removed. This applies to smaller, mass market lifestyle speakers as well as those larger floor standing speakers that cost mega bucks.
The following are not testimonials from kool-aid drinking fans but professional reviewers of hi-end audio gear. Paul Folbrecht, said about the TBI subwoofer at
http://www.audioasylum.com/reviews/Speakers/T.B.I./Magellan-VIP-Active-Bass-Module/speakers/28/282462.html Here's an excerpt: "It's hard to stress how perfect and unusual is (the) disappearing act. Even the $4000 REL subwoofer I once owned could not do this. It could not blend perfectly with very fast drivers and draw no attention to itself. It did certainly go lower, something like 3 dB down @16 Hz, and I'm sure it had the potential for higher output, but I don't need that." And that was a review of the TBI powered subwoofer with only a 6" driver.
There's another great review on the micro monitors at
http://www.audioreview.com/TBIcrx.aspx There, another pro reviewer, Eric LoBue said, "What I would like to see, however, is to see this technology get picked up by those very large manufacturers of 'home theater in a box' and portable boombox type systems. This technology sounds great, and anyone with a discerning ear knows that those types of mass consumer systems could really use some improvement." Well, since then, that is exactly what is happening. Walmart-type HTIB speakers are indeed target market now so everybody can enjoy good sound not just the so-called high end guys. You identified that one correctly too, while trying to make it sound negative.
Finally, John Potis evaluated products that an OEM customer of TBI's sells. These speakers, with the same tweeters Adwilk evaluated, sell for $5,500/pair with stands. At
http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue40/claravu_88.htm you can read the entire, very comprehensive review that concludes with, "Sometimes I hear speakers such as the ClaraVu 88s from Gingko Audio and wonder how such an upstart speaker designer can so clearly hit one out of the park while other companies seem to flounder in mediocrity. In terms of the market, it's gotta be a bear to break into; what with so many speakers already out there. Why take a chance on an upstart? Why even bring one to market? In a lot of ways, it makes little sense to me. But then again, I'm not the manufacturer. I'm just the reviewer and if it's my job to report to you what a review piece sounds like, here it is: the ClaraVu 88s are darned nice speakers. The more I listen to them, the more I like them."
He was spot on with that comment. It is a challenge, especially in today's economy, for any start-up company like mine to succeed. But TBI products (even their cheap tweeters) are really good and deserve some recognition, so I'm not giving up that easily.
Admittedly, I made a huge mistake with my opening approach on your forum with the DAD device, but all of that is water under the bridge now. My subsequent posts on the subwoofer have been factual and accurate; and, despite what TLS Guy has said to try and discredit our technology and products, I was never trying to paint all the Audioholics experts with the same brush with which I painted TLS Guy.
None of you are "stupid" but some are just ignorant of what ETL is and how it works. But it's our challenge to help clear that up for you all, except Adwilk, who admits he doesn't understand it totally but is willing to learn... until I am banned as a heritec simply because T/S is old technology and simply does not figure into the ETL equation like it does with other loudspeaker designs.
Dave
