"Let me see the map."
"Yeah, let Magellan have a look."
"OK, the sun sets in the East."
"No, the sun sets in the West."
"That's when you're in the East, but we are way out West now, so we are past where the sun sets."
"You can't be past where the sun sets, and if you think you can, then I am directly South of an idiot."